Suspected pirates to get emails from ISPs later this month

**mikeo** · 12-01-2017, 07:18 PM

Maybe not the right way to go about it. Bit of a scatter gun approach. But I'm all for them trying to target some of the more obvious high volume pirates out there and throw the book at them. Hang them all, that's what I say.

**DemonHighwayman** · 12-01-2017, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by Dashers

Get It Right, get a DRM version that can only be played on a few devices for a year before it expires.
Get It Right, with bundled menus, adverts, copyright notices, and other forced content.
Get It Right, with poorly written launchers, DRM apps and other vulnerability promoting materials.
Get It Right, with clunky boxes that you have to store somewhere.
Get It Right, with on-demand that expires a week after broadcast - or 1 day before you got round to catching up.
Get It Right, with adverts that are compressed to buggery and wake the household up with a bad cut.
Get It Right, with advert messages overlaying your TV episode.

Best statement ever on the subject ! I'd love to see the MSM quote this alongside whatever piece they are doing on the topic.

**Otherhand** · 12-01-2017, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by cheesemp

So true - As someone who makes a big effort not to pirate its damn frustrating. I have friends who do pirate - straight to TV 4K streaming using Kodi and I'm stuck with low quality painful services (Chromecast does not support Amazon Prime, Fire Stick does not support Google Play Movies - Ahhhh!!!!). So far the only DRM I've felt work is Steam but only because its unobtrusive, cheap and it just works but then you find some Ubisoft title that needs uplay!!!!!!!!!

4k on Kodi? It's 95% 720p (everything rated HD) and 1080p if you're lucky, isn't it?

**Jonj1611** · 12-01-2017, 10:55 PM

From what I understand it only targets the people using file sharing sites anyway, doesn't include people direct downloading etc which is the way a lot of people are getting their downloads now

**me-yeah** · 12-01-2017, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by ToastQ

OK so I don't really have any experience with DRM, so why is it generally hated? Is it mainly the fact that you're severely limited in where you can use the program/game?

people are to thick to watch the DVD version for £1.99 then buy the physical bluray

**fail_quail** · 13-01-2017, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by ToastQ

OK so I don't really have any experience with DRM, so why is it generally hated? Is it mainly the fact that you're severely limited in where you can use the program/game?

It's a large and complex subject.

But in a nutshell: for the vast majority of the time DRM negatively impacts paying customers only whilst pirates ignore it and so get a superior product. The near polar opposite of what it should be doing.

**aniilv** · 13-01-2017, 02:05 AM

Originally Posted by Otherhand

4k on Kodi? It's 95% 720p (everything rated HD) and 1080p if you're lucky, isn't it?

of course, 4k streaming requires too much bandwidth for pirated content providers to supply

**aidanjt** · 13-01-2017, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by aniilv

of course, 4k streaming requires too much bandwidth for pirated content providers to supply

H.265 changes that. You'll see more 4K streams/torrents as more client devices start supporting the codec.

**Biscuit** · 13-01-2017, 03:12 AM

Interesting to see if my encrypted VPN link to the backup system that has near constant traffic causes them to send me a letter.

Ill certainly be writing them back if it does.

**b0redom** · 13-01-2017, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by me-yeah

people are to thick to watch the DVD version for £1.99 then buy the physical bluray

Interesting viewpoint to take. Most of my TV comes over terrestrial (Freeview), but I also have subscriptions for Netflix and Amazon which the kids watch pretty much constantly.

We went away for a weekend and didn't have any Internet access, so I picked up a copy of Minions on DVD. I was forced to endure unskippable studio gumpf, unskippable ads for movies and then a copyright notice, despite the fact that is was a legitimate copy of the movie.

This is just a PITA, and when you have an autistic 3 year old having a meltdown because he wants to watch the movie THAT YOU HAVE PAID FOR and you have minutes of unskippable and unwanted content, it's not really surprising people look for other avenues to get content.

**Ross1** · 13-01-2017, 11:49 AM

Kind of nice of them really.

"hey, we can see you are downloading x. Please update your encryption methods to make sure we cant see you downloading x in the future".

**shaithis** · 13-01-2017, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Ross1

Kind of nice of them really.

"hey, we can see you are downloading x. Please update your encryption methods to make sure we cant see you downloading x in the future".

Thats essentially what Zen have been doing for the last year.....

**peterb** · 13-01-2017, 02:45 PM

Guys, just a quick reminder that while HEXUS has no objection about copyright protection discussions, it has zero tolerance for piracy and therefore discussions about methods of circumventing copyright protection.

**j.o.s.h.1408** · 13-01-2017, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Dashers

Get It Right, get a DRM version that can only be played on a few devices for a year before it expires.
Get It Right, with bundled menus, adverts, copyright notices, and other forced content.
Get It Right, with poorly written launchers, DRM apps and other vulnerability promoting materials.
Get It Right, with clunky boxes that you have to store somewhere.
Get It Right, with on-demand that expires a week after broadcast - or 1 day before you got round to catching up.
Get It Right, with adverts that are compressed to buggery and wake the household up with a bad cut.
Get It Right, with advert messages overlaying your TV episode.

Legend

**shaithis** · 16-01-2017, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by peterb

Guys, just a quick reminder that while HEXUS has no objection about copyright protection discussions, it has zero tolerance for piracy and therefore discussions about methods of circumventing copyright protection.

Clearly aimed at me due to my post being deleted but I didn't mention anything about copy protection, it was about protecting yourself from spying (packet inspection) and perusal of your DNS history.

Really, Hexus is getting way to jumpy for some topics to be properly discussed - even legally. Guess it just means more time on Reddit instead.

**aidanjt** · 16-01-2017, 02:37 PM

These days privacy = piracy, oh look, they're almost spelt the same!

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