Microsoft says Windows 7 isn't fit for modern hardware and security
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Asserts people should learn from the Windows XP changeover and upgrade earlier.
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If there's not enough pull to get people to Windows 10, and you keep pushing them away from Windows 7 then maybe they'll look for another option...
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jimbouk
If there's not enough pull to get people to Windows 10, and you keep pushing them away from Windows 7 then maybe they'll look for another option...
I would not want to be the head of IT for an SMB fully implementing something else, if not because it would be harder to do so (and maintain) then because of the hassle of teaching others how to use it.
I won't argue that W10 has flaws, but to me it feels like a well rounded OS, and once your admins have gotten around to disabling as much of its standard bloat software as possible...
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Ozaron
I would not want to be the head of IT for an SMB fully implementing something else, if not because it would be harder to do so (and maintain) then because of the hassle of teaching others how to use it.
I won't argue that W10 has flaws, but to me it feels like a well rounded OS, and once your admins have gotten around to disabling as much of its standard bloat software as possible...
Indeed. Most large companies use builds that remove the bloat and nail everything to the floor. From my experience in IT many are already planning the move. I can't see many moving to "alternatives" that's for sure.
For personal users Windows 10 is pretty strong now and it's still improving. Windows 7 was a great OS and I used it for a long time, but I fully understand MSFT wanting to get people off it and to support 1 less OS.
What's the choice in the personal space ? LINUX for techies and Mac's for Yuppies. Both of those have their fans and if you are the target audience for either you probably use them already.
Re: Microsoft says Windows 7 isn't fit for modern hardware and security
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jimbouk
If there's not enough pull to get people to Windows 10, and you keep pushing them away from Windows 7 then maybe they'll look for another option...
I fully encourage them to do so. I'm honestly tired of people incessantly whinging on about Windows 10 and how much they wouldn't touch it with a bargepole (for frankly questionable reasons). I wish my employer would hurry up with their Windows 10 rollout - I'm a developer and Windows 7 is starting to cause me serious headaches.
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I'm still rolling out XP :)
Re: Microsoft says Windows 7 isn't fit for modern hardware and security
I guess they felt the need to give Windows 7 users a poke what with Windows 10 uptake near enough flat-lining.
Re: Microsoft says Windows 7 isn't fit for modern hardware and security
Microsoft are full of crap. They don't maintain hardware support, the hardware manufacturers do. As for security, it's their job to maintain security patching. If they're saying they already couldn't be bothered with that on 7, then why bother buying anything else from them?
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Personally I have installed windows 10 on about 5 different occasions (one was the release candidate) and tried to use it but each time, a few weeks in I've come across too many problems to continue.
If there was a way to turn off all the "Helpful features" then I probably would have stuck with it.
One case involved Win10 applying weird permissions to a second HDD which prevented data being written to it from other OSs.
On one windows 10 install, when it applied an update (one of the more major ones - equivalent of a service pack) it decided that the update would have to be a clean install without conveying that information to me?... That was a bad day!
Based on these problems and many others I've gone back to windows 7 for the foreseeable future.
I'm not sure what I'll do when the extended support runs out, maybe I'll move over to linux full time, though I'm not sure what I'll do about running CAD programs...
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I still don't get why people voluntarily install Windows 10. I've been running it in a test environment since the first Insider Preview and I honestly have nothing good to say on it. Actually, the next latest build 15002 bungled the installation so much that build 15007 won't install.
There's just no way that I can imagine that would make me install Windows 10 in a production environment.
Why then would I run Insider Previews if I'm that much against Windows 10? Well, originally I wasn't, and with every new build I hope there's something that would change my mind. Instead each new build just seems to solidify my stance against it.
As for Microsoft badmouthing a product, which no longer makes them money, but rather costs them money to maintain, hold the press! Who would've thunk it!
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A blatant attempt to scare people into moving to Windows 10, while ignoring the fact that there are a number of valid issues many people have with it that make staying on 7 the obvious and much preferable option.
If Microsoft don't solve the concerns people have (particularly the inabilities to disable telemetry and to pick and choose updates as before), they'll have to watch as people stay with 7 until the end (and/or beyond) and/or migrate to various Linux distributions.
This could end up being something that makes Linux desktop usage rise significantly.
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azrael-
I still don't get why people voluntarily install Windows 10. I've been running it in a test environment since the first Insider Preview and I honestly have nothing good to say on it. Actually, the next latest build 15002 bungled the installation so much that build 15007 won't install. ...
If you're running Insider Previews - i.e. early beta code - what do you expect? The only issue I've had with any Windows 10 computer in my household (which is a grand total of, what, 7 or 8 machines?) was with one insider preview that borked the update process so I couldn't download any more insider previews. Sadly my discovering this coincided with me getting ready to go on holiday for a couple of weeks and by the time I got back that preview had expired: that was the point I reinstalled that PC and dropped out of the insider program.
But running on the main update cycle I've had no technical problems at all. One or two annoying decisions by MS along the way mind you (like removing the option to disable some features from the Pro version of the OS...) but since I now run 10 at home and 7 at work I get to compare and contrast every day, and so far I've come across no reason at all that I'd want to go back to 7 on a machine that's running 10.
You don't get why people voluntarily install Windows 10? Maybe it's because your experience isn't the universal - or even typical - experience of Windows 10.
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If people want an alternative ready for January 2020 then perhaps they should go to https://www.reactos.org/ and hit the donate button.
Personally I think Microsoft are right, and my Linux migration is going rather well.
Re: Microsoft says Windows 7 isn't fit for modern hardware and security
At this stage I'm just as likely to 'downgrade' to W7 rather than 'upgrade' to W10 from my current 8.1 install, the more I read about W10...the less I want it.
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aidanjt
Microsoft are full of crap. They don't maintain hardware support, the hardware manufacturers do. As for security, it's their job to maintain security patching. If they're saying they already couldn't be bothered with that on 7, then why bother buying anything else from them?
'Already couldn't be bothered'?
Windows 7 is 7 years old. Contemporary OSes would iOS 2 on the iPhone 3G and Android 1.6, with the flagship Android phone being the original HTC slider phone. Smart TVs hadn't yet been coined and Tablet PCs were 2kg laptops with reversible screens running Core 2 Duo processors. The console market had the original Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii.
Microsoft and Windows developers have already supported Windows 7 for longer than almost every other product released in 2009 and will likely do so for another three years.
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EndlessWaves
Microsoft and Windows developers have already supported Windows 7 for longer than almost every other product released in 2009 and will likely do so for another three years.
I think you just summed up how well executed Windows 7 was, doesn't help sell me on 10 :D
Edit: Thinking about it, smart TVs must have been around then. My Samsung is ancient, and I wasn't that early an adopter. The PS3 still gets updates as well, which is more than can be said for Windows Mobile of that era which is probably more in people's mind when they read Microsoft announcements. Still a very enjoyable post though.
