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    More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    Don't forget to bring a pinch of salt or two.
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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    The only alert is when you look at single core/thread results, as its lower. Now we do not know at what freq AMD cpu for running. But as is on slide it is comparable to Intel i7-6950X @ 3Ghz.
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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    Must admit that I'm still finding those prices a touch high, as they'll be US "pre-tax" prices. That means in the UK, we'll be lucky to see the quad core for under 100ukp inc, which is slightly demoralising. Bear in mind that a couple of years ago you could buy a quad-core i5 for 100-110+VAT from Scan as a fairly regular price, it doesn't feel like a big step fowards really. That said, the way Intel have price-gouged subsequently is no joke, and the $/£ ratio isn't doing us any favours.

    I'm just looking for a reason to think "ryzen" rather than "3.9ghz i3" at the lower end, esp with many (of my) consumer-levels apps still being primarily single threaded. Bring on the reviews (and boards)!

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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    Quote Originally Posted by darcotech View Post
    The only alert is when you look at single core/thread results, as its lower....
    Personally I thought the CPU Physics score only matching the i7 7700k would've been the stand out concern.

    OTOH those results have more caveats than you can shake a stick at, the first one being the Ryzen results aren't the results of the person running the test so we have *no* idea what the rig actually consists of. We also have no idea of clock speeds, whether the test was run on a stable platform or a buggy ES one (we know that some of the ES platforms had issues with turbo and SMT) ... you get the picture

    The biggest takeaway is that performance is within spitting distance of Intel's extreme platform, and competitive with their consumer desktop platform. It's a pretty good start, IMNSHO

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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    The whole stack of slides in the leak are here:

    http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700...hmarks-leaked/


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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    Some leaks on US pricing of the Asus motherboards based on Aussie pricing:

    http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-am4-as...prices-leaked/

    LOL,at the pricing of the X370 motherboards if true.

    Edit!!

    Just checked the pricing of the Asus Z270 motherboards - WTF??

    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-...mb-68q-as.html

    £240!!

    So even at £200 the X370 is "cheaper" - thats mental pricing for the top end consumer line motherboards for both sockets.


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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    Oh, and one thing did tweak my memory slightly:

    The processors with an 'X' suffix have base, turbo, and XFR frequencies. XFR is thought to stand for 'eXtended Frequency Range'
    Hmm, I wonder why people might think that? Perhaps because AMD have already said that's what it stands for? http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-desktop-zen-cpu-xfr/

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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    My biggest question is still unanswered: will there be ECC support?

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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Some leaks on US pricing of the Asus motherboards based on Aussie pricing:

    http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-am4-as...prices-leaked/

    LOL,at the pricing of the X370 motherboards if true.

    Edit!!

    Just checked the pricing of the Asus Z270 motherboards - WTF??

    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-...mb-68q-as.html

    £240!!

    So even at £200 the X370 is "cheaper" - thats mental pricing for the top end consumer line motherboards for both sockets.
    Motherboard prices (along with pretty much everything else in electronics/computer hardware) have risen dramatically in later years. Also, keep in mind how weak the Pound is right now. The Gigabyte Aorus Z270X-Gaming 9 is £520 at Scan ... More than £200 for top-of-the-line consumer line models is really not surprising at all. Where top-end models previously carried over the same pricing between generations, with newer models giving you more features, the current standard seems to be that you pay the same for roughly the same features, and more for whatever's new.

    A lot of this comes from the "improvements" on these boards being non-vital, cosmetic or high-end OC features. RGB headers, lighting, super-clean designs, fancy-looking I/O cluster shrouds, overdone VRM heatsinks (some with water cooling support). In other words, what you get for your money is a system to show off, not necessarily one that performs any better. People seem willing to pay for that, though. OTOH, some board, like the Gigabyte mentioned above, add things like PCIe switches to allow for better multi-GPU or other features. Not that that has much value with today's hardware ...

    Those B350 boards, though.... Those are more attractive for sure. Although they don't have fancy VRM setups or very good cooling, $69 for an overclocking-enabled mATX board with a PCIe 3.0x4 m.2 slot? I'll gladly take that. Sticking a heatsink onto the VRM isn't the most difficult thing in the world.

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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    I havn't used AMD cpu's for ages, think my last one was an Athlon but I must admit I'm keeping my eye on ryzen and motherboards for my next upgrade.

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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    My biggest question is still unanswered: will there be ECC support?

    Pro version should support it I think
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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Some leaks on US pricing of the Asus motherboards based on Aussie pricing:

    http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-am4-as...prices-leaked/

    LOL,at the pricing of the X370 motherboards if true.

    Edit!!

    Just checked the pricing of the Asus Z270 motherboards - WTF??

    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-...mb-68q-as.html

    £240!!

    So even at £200 the X370 is "cheaper" - thats mental pricing for the top end consumer line motherboards for both sockets.
    Not a real change in price from : Asus CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z 990X Socket AM3+.
    Lunch price $239.99. Having looked back at some old reviews.

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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    Quote Originally Posted by CountBartok View Post
    Not a real change in price from : Asus CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z 990X Socket AM3+.
    Lunch price $239.99. Having looked back at some old reviews.
    True. Also, reasonable (not as in cheap, but as in "not bonkers") for a top-of-the-line motherboard. Expensive? Sure. But if that's as far as it goes, that's okay. I bought an Asus Rampage Formula X48 for not much less than that back in 2008. It's the £300+++ boards that make me feel queasy, and the rather sad amount of trickle-down that's happened since I bought that board.

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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    Another leak:

    https://videocardz.com/65913/how-fast-is-ryzen

    The 6 core Ryzen is very similar to the Core i7 6850K and the 4C Ryzen is only running at 3.2GHZ~3.4GHZ.

    OK,I had a quick look on the 3DMark website:

    http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/c...7-4790K/review

    That 3.2GHZ~3.4GHZ 4C/8T Ryzen scores 10177,and a Core i7 4790K around 10660. A Core i7 5775C scores around 11110.

    So depending on all the cores Turbo on the top 3.5GHZ~3.9GHZ SKU,we could be seeing another 10% to 15% clockspeed increase,which would take it to Core i7 5775C levels.

    If that is £175 to £200,like the rumours are hinting,thats really going to be decent £100 to £200 CPU there!!

    Yeah,the Core i7 7700K looks a reasonable bit faster but only down to its much higher clockspeeds.


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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak



    It seems the Videocardz article was using TH scores which were higher than normal:

    http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-3dmark...tels-i7-6950x/


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    Re: More AMD Ryzen details, prices, and benchmarks leak

    Quote Originally Posted by darcotech View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by azrael- View Post
    My biggest question is still unanswered: will there be ECC support?

    Pro version should support it I think
    Hope so, and a board with IPMI for it to go in (or do AMD have something like Intel AMT?)

    Use ECC on my server and it NEVER crashes, will get it for the desktop too if I can.

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