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    Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    Should be good news for those hoping to get the best OC speeds from their Ryzen chips.
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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    3rd time is a charm! Impressed at the solder and inner gold plating, that'll make for a fantastic thermal transfer from die to casing for the coolers

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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    AMD are back with a bang fair play to them. They really went the extra mile with the manufacturing quality on the Ryzen CPUs

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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    lol £900 worth of chips and he's going to do more ..
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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    I'm guessing that he gets them for free from AMD in return for the publicity.

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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    This all looks very promising and further reduces the likelihood that my next CPU could be Intel.

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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    Are we sure these aren't just cherry picked samples? It's not uncommon for manufacturers to send "people with influence" higher quality components for advertising purposes. They all do it.

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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    Quote Originally Posted by LeetyMcLeet View Post
    Are we sure these aren't just cherry picked samples? ...
    Seems unlikely: can you imagine the uproar when people found out? The backlash if they'd sent special soldered samples for delidding when retail CPUs used ordinary TIM would be horrific...

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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    3rd time is a charm! Impressed at the solder and inner gold plating, that'll make for a fantastic thermal transfer from die to casing for the coolers
    The golds just used as a whetting agent as indium doesn't bond very well to silicon or nickle.

    EDIT: Out of curiosity can anyone remember when Intel switched from solder to paste, as in what the size of the die was and how that size compares to Ryzen 4 core die size.
    Last edited by Corky34; 02-03-2017 at 12:29 PM.

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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    ... EDIT: Out of curiosity can anyone remember when Intel switched from solder to paste ...
    Ivy Bridge - the i7 3770k used paste rather than solder. It had a ~ 160mm2 die. The Sandy Bridge i7 2600k had a ~ 210mm2 die. Coincidentally, ~210mm2 is the current estimate for 8 Core Ryzen...

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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    Going on the video though it looks like they used two separate indium solder pads (one for each 4 core block) so would that make each 4 core Ryzen die 105mm2, apologies if that's wrong, I'm useless at maths. If so does that mean AMD are using indium solder on smaller dies than Intel used to, does it mean they're confident that it won't experience stress induced problems, maybe even gotten around those problems with some wizz bang new method.

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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Ivy Bridge - the i7 3770k used paste rather than solder. It had a ~ 160mm2 die. The Sandy Bridge i7 2600k had a ~ 210mm2 die. Coincidentally, ~210mm2 is the current estimate for 8 Core Ryzen...
    With all of the chipset functions excluding graphics too.

    That hints a 4C/8T Ryzen with a largish IGP will be around the same size.


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    Re: Overclocker der8auer delids AMD Ryzen CPU to reveal solder TIM

    der8auer has already overclocked the AMD Ryzen 7 1800X chip to 5802.93MHz according to Eteknix. http://www.eteknix.com/overclocker-der8auer-sets-impressive-ryzen-7-1800x-record/

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