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    Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    Biostar is also the first company so far to announce a Micro-ATX AMD X370 motherboard.
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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    Well it's nice to know the solid cap is 100% solid. I was worried it might be 99%. The last thing you want is your cap...er.. Things to be part non-solid.

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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    Okay after googleing seems 100% solid caps are actually a good indicator of capacitor quality and that they're not gonna blow.

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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    What's the point of a X350 when the B350 has the near same specs?

    It's not like you gain the benefit of SLI on an itx motherboard...

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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    Indeed, not fussed about the chipset I just want a MATX / ITX board thats geared for overclocking, decent power delivery / cooling ect, all of the B350 boards I have seen so far are just budget offerings, nothing in the enthusiast space yet.
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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    Another Mini-ITX motherboard without Wi-Fi and DisplayPort/HDMI 2.0. I could understand if they were leaving them off the A300/A320 boards, but top chipset boards?

    The X370 has USB 3.0 (2+4) instead of the B350's USB 3.0 (4+2). Maybe that's rear/front ports.

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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    Why would you need HDMI 2 for the current Ryzen chips?
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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum View Post
    Why would you need HDMI 2 for the current Ryzen chips?
    Not for current but for raven ridge maybe would suit those wanting a 4k/60 fps output on a small basic HTPC.

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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    I doubt many people will buy X370 and use Raven Ridge though
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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    doesn't the X370 use the Realtek ALC1220 and the B350 use Realtek ALC887 or 892?
    MSI, asrock, asus all seem to.

    and is the hdmi port just for the inbuilt CPU graphics, or does it do audio aswell?

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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessWaves View Post
    Another Mini-ITX motherboard without Wi-Fi and DisplayPort/HDMI 2.0. I could understand if they were leaving them off the A300/A320 boards, but top chipset boards?

    The X370 has USB 3.0 (2+4) instead of the B350's USB 3.0 (4+2). Maybe that's rear/front ports.
    HDMI 2.0 and Wi-Fi should be standard now even on budget boards. And not having them on high end boards is unforgivable. Especially mini-ITX!

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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum View Post
    Why would you need HDMI 2 for the current Ryzen chips?
    Why would you need DVI or HDMI 1.4?

    If they're going to include video outputs it seems bizarre not to support even what Bristol Ridge is capable of. Maybe this is just a short term fix to get the sales from being there first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Platinum View Post
    I doubt many people will buy X370 and use Raven Ridge though
    Plenty of people bought a Z97 motherboard for Broadwell.

    Raven Ridge could easily go up to a Quad Core with SMT, it wouldn't surprise me if the top RR models were £200 or more if the rumours for Ryzen 1400X pricing are true.

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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    I actually like it without the wifi. If you want to add wifi then an external adapter with adjustable antennas will give you a better connection.

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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    I would want as strong a VRM section as possible on the motherboard - you can always add a USB WIFI adaptor TBH!!


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    Re: Biostar shows off the X370GTN Mini-ITX AM4 motherboard

    Quote Originally Posted by chj View Post
    Okay after googleing seems 100% solid caps are actually a good indicator of capacitor quality and that they're not gonna blow.
    Yep. "100% solid caps" means that all capacitors on the board are solid-state, as opposed to electrolytic. Electrolytic caps degrade far faster than solid-state, and as such cause premature board failures. By today's standards it's to be expected on anything outside of bargain-basement boards, but it's still a good checkbox to have in terms of reliability.
    Quote Originally Posted by infraction View Post
    What's the point of a X350 when the B350 has the near same specs?

    It's not like you gain the benefit of SLI on an itx motherboard...
    Very true. I guess they use it purely as an upsell, what with the gimped-for-no-reason m.2 slot on the B350 version. Makes me wonder, though - are they artificially limiting the B350 (for example by not soldering on the pins for the last two lanes of PCIe), or do they actually have different PCBs, with the B350 routing m.2 through the chipset, while the X370 running it directly off the CPU? If so: what the hell, Biostar? Do you enjoy wasting money?

    Quote Originally Posted by EndlessWaves View Post
    Another Mini-ITX motherboard without Wi-Fi and DisplayPort/HDMI 2.0. I could understand if they were leaving them off the A300/A320 boards, but top chipset boards?

    The X370 has USB 3.0 (2+4) instead of the B350's USB 3.0 (4+2). Maybe that's rear/front ports.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus View Post
    HDMI 2.0 and Wi-Fi should be standard now even on budget boards. And not having them on high end boards is unforgivable. Especially mini-ITX!
    Yes. DisplayPort too. I get including one legacy port for office use, but given that DP adapts to anything in the known universe with £20 passive adapters, the motherboard industry could really stand to ditch both VGA and DVI. I can't really understand that bundling a cheap, passive DP-DVI adapter would cost more than actually including one on the PCB. Oh, and HDMI 1.4? In 2017? For APUs that natively support 2.0? Hell no.

    Ditching the DVI port for DP would open up a lot of room for a vertical m.2 slot for a tiny WiFi card too. That would run just fine off a single PCIe 2.0 lane from the chipset.

    Quote Originally Posted by CyberScooby View Post
    I actually like it without the wifi. If you want to add wifi then an external adapter with adjustable antennas will give you a better connection.
    External WiFi adapters are notoriously unstable, expensive, and not really any more flexible than internal ones. Internal ones very often have adjustable antennas too - in fact, it's more common, as they need to route the antennas outside of the case and thus include standard antenna connector terminals. USB WiFi adapters usually have internal antennas with horrible reception, run hot thanks to plastic housings with terrible ventilation, and fail under heavy loads. Unless you pay £100+ for one, of course. Which leads to the question: why not pay $40-50 more for the same thing built into the motherboard? Less hassle, fewer occupied USB ports, cheaper. Oh, and just as upgradeable, as long as the motherboard manufacturer stays out of idiot territory and uses an m.2 or mPCIe card instead of soldering it to the motherboard.

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