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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Friesiansam View Post
    Why did you buy a case with a glass panel and lights?
    I didn't say I bought it. And didn't. I said it's a case I have.

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    I suppose it takes all sorts and some will no doubt like this idea,
    Nah, it doesn't take all sorts, you just get all sorts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    I wonder how many anti-RGB users drive dull, boring, ugly cars, too...
    As someone whose hobby car is a multicoloured Stratos replica in group 4 trim I would say it was far from boring or ugly. As someone who is anti-rgb, I am not fitting the kit car with under-lighting or extra unused fake exhaust tips though which is more how I see the scene of stuffing LEDs into PC cases.

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    I suppose it takes all sorts and some will no doubt like this idea, but on a case I have with just a single glass panel in the side, the very first thing I did was paint over it. The second was disconnect a load of pointless blue LED's.

    Personally, a case is a functional object not an artwork or a fashion statement, and should be as unobtrusive as possible. I want smooth edges, having sliced fingers open on poorly machined edges too often, easy access for removing panels and intelligent design to maximise use of space for storage and cooling.

    As for a case that's bearable powered off, and butt-ugly the moment you turn it on .... no, thanks. Not even if they gave them away. I'd rather buy a case that wasn't such a show-off.
    if you don't like glass panels on the side, why did you buy a case with one?

    i quite like the design but overall, its too much for my tastes and i live in win cases - i have the 303.

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Posted at 8.37 this morning:

    Quote Originally Posted by silent View Post
    if you don't like glass panels on the side, why did you buy a case with one? ...
    Posted at 10.04 last night:

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    I didn't say I bought it. And didn't. I said it's a case I have.
    I think there might be a clue in there somewhere....

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Looks like my Grandad's greenhouse

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    As someone whose hobby car is a multicoloured Stratos replica in group 4 trim I would say it was far from boring or ugly.
    RGB is about having options, same as having different designs of case, keyboard, mouse, or whatever.
    If you want manufacturers to stop making things with different options and just do plain boxes, get an old Volvo.

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    As someone who is anti-rgb, I am not fitting the kit car with under-lighting or extra unused fake exhaust tips though which is more how I see the scene of stuffing LEDs into PC cases.
    I presume you hated Tron as well?

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    I presume you hated Tron as well?
    I like Tron, and I got a 707 in black/red with a window and mesh on the roof. Gave it a black mobo with red LEDs, some extra fans with red LEDs and etc.

    It was a mistake and I will not be doing it again. In the future, I will stick to the rules of Tron - the only good colours are understated tones of blue or a shade of white, and not so many of them. That said, the machine is working perfectly from a utility point of view and I don't dislike it enough to throw money at replacing the case or fan array, if need be I could disable all of the extra LEDs and ignore it anyway. Options are good - they teach you not to create a machine that looks almost like it's powered by evil voodoo with light spilling from the roof mesh like invisible fire.

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozaron View Post
    if need be I could disable all of the extra LEDs and ignore it anyway.
    The Anti- lot always seem to forget this...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozaron View Post
    Options are good - they teach you not to create a machine that looks almost like it's powered by evil voodoo with light spilling from the roof mesh like invisible fire.
    Unless that's the look you want... Done properly, it looks fantastic!
    I personally dislike area/flood lighting in a case, preferring things that look like instrumentation lights. It's perhaps a bit 70s/80s retro, but I grew up with that stuff and I actually want my kit to look like Airwolf/Knight Rider.

    Kinda gutted that the upgrade to a 980Ti means I lose the in-line voltage monitor LEDs, though.

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Unless that's the look you want... Done properly, it looks fantastic!

    I personally dislike area/flood lighting in a case, preferring things that look like instrumentation lights. It's perhaps a bit 70s/80s retro, but I grew up with that stuff and I actually want my kit to look like Airwolf/Knight Rider.
    Well it might've been OK but the power LED is blue, HDD is yellow and my keyboard only works with white, plus the router on my desk is green only.. the effect is totally destroyed at this point. Oh, and the Fury's BIOS switch lights up blue in the middle of the case. It might be possible to replace the misc case LEDs (I haven't really thought about it) and I can switch to the other Fury BIOS and disable switch light but the rest is unsalvagable..

    I would agree that lighting up just components you get a good view of is a better way to do it, but getting that look will probably be tricky.

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozaron View Post
    It might be possible to replace the misc case LEDs (I haven't really thought about it) and I can switch to the other Fury BIOS and disable switch light but the rest is unsalvagable.
    Most of that sounds like you could either replace it direct (Did that with my HDD LED on the case), or cover it with a coloured cap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozaron View Post
    I would agree that lighting up just components you get a good view of is a better way to do it, but getting that look will probably be tricky.
    Naw... the main trick is to use fairly dim LEDs and/or bits of diffuser gel (plastic film used by theatre lighting technicians and the like).
    Decent RGB will have brightness settings too, precisely so you don't get blinded by the box next to you during games.

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    The Anti- lot always seem to forget this...
    Not always. I did point out above "The second [thing I did] was disconnect a load of pointless blue LED's."

    It would have been nice if they'd thought to put a switch in, though.

    The ONLY LED's, or other lighting, I want on a case are those with information value, like power or activity indicators. Granted, a window means I can (sort-of) see motherboard status LED'S for POST messages, etc, but if I need to see those odds are the case side is off anyway.

    It is, of course, just my preference, but I really don't get the point of the fad of tarting up a case with lights. It's the current version of sticking go-faster stripes and a fake large bore exhaust extension on a car. IMHO, of course.

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    RGB is about having options, same as having different designs of case, keyboard, mouse, or whatever.
    If you want manufacturers to stop making things with different options and just do plain boxes, get an old Volvo.
    Options? Get an Arduino and an LED strip with individually addressable LEDs and code up a custom lightshow for your PC, it doesn't look hard. That would get you get something unique, truly a one off because you created it, you programmed it. An RGB header just seems lazy and limiting, ultimately a waste of the fiver those components probably added to the board.

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by mers View Post
    I'm losing it with all this led stuff inside PC's , last thing I want when using one is the distraction of a semi disco going off. You might as well leave the side cover off and stuff a Christmas tree in there. lol.
    The moment I read this I was thinking Bee Gees! "Night fever, night feveraaaaahh"

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    Not always.
    Yes, as always, you are the exception....

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    It would have been nice if they'd thought to put a switch in, though.
    Put one in yourself. That's what I did. Several, in fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    The ONLY LED's, or other lighting, I want on a case are those with information value, like power or activity indicators.
    You'd love my build, then - RAM, GPU, Power usage, Fan speeds, all done through LED graph bars and digital meters!!

    The ultimate aim is something inspired by things like this:
    http://lamcdn.net/hopesandfears.com/...mvcXQ-wide.jpg

    http://lamcdn.net/hopesandfears.com/...fullscreen.jpg


    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    but I really don't get the point of the fad of tarting up a case with lights.
    Depends how you do it.
    As mentioned, mine looks more like your car dashboard illumination, rather than a kevved up Golf... but done well, even the latter can look good.
    It's like how people see an exposed motherboard and think it looks awesome, where I prefer those with armour over the PCB.

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Options? Get an Arduino and an LED strip with individually addressable LEDs and code up a custom lightshow for your PC, it doesn't look hard.
    If I could code/program, I would!!
    I already tried a Picadillo 35T, but it's a lot more complicated than I have a head for and there's a lot more to learn before I can get to just the bits I need, to do the things I want.
    I don't want a lightshow, though. A friend has his RGB keyboard left on Default, which is a scrolling rainbow pattern, which annoys the heck out of me... I see RGB as more the facility to pick *one* out of many different colours.

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    An RGB header just seems lazy and limiting, ultimately a waste of the fiver those components probably added to the board.
    Again, it's not just about strip-lighting and making your case into an expensive lamp. It's also the point details like the illumination on, say, the Asus STRIX X99 board.

    So yeah, just because some people can't set up their RGB to look good, doesn't mean we should stop it altogether.

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    ....

    Put one in yourself. That's what I did. Several, in fact.
    For my objectives, that's self-defeating. The reason I'd have liked a switch built-in is so I could turn it off, without having to worry about and work out how it was wired, and what was safe to cut. I have NO desire to be able to turn it back on, which is the only benefit a switch would give me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    ...

    You'd love my build, then - RAM, GPU, Power usage, Fan speeds, all done through LED graph bars and digital meters!!

    ....

    Depends how you do it.
    As mentioned, mine looks more like your car dashboard illumination, rather than a kevved up ...
    I guess I should have said "useful" information.

    The car dashboard isn't a bad analogy though, in the context of the purpose of the device. Much of a car's dashboard provides info useful to the operation of the car, such as speed (for legal compliance), fuel level (to avoid running out) and water temp (critical early sign of many catastrophic potential failures).

    Most, maybe all, of the info you mention has no relevance to me for my use of the PC, so I have no need to know it, and zero interest in displaying it for the sake of it. The fanciest my cases get are the power and activity lights on the hot-swappable 6-disc RAID 5 array in my server.

    Beyond that, I expect my PC cases to do the PC equivalent of the old adage about well-behaved children ... be seen and not heard, but in the PC's case, barely seen and not heard.

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    Re: In Win tòu 2.0 signature tempered glass chassis launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    I have NO desire to be able to turn it back on, which is the only benefit a switch would give me.
    So don't get one that doesn't fit your requirements, even if it is free...

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    I guess I should have said "useful" information.
    Depends what you define as useful.

    When I was overclocking my GPU I found it extremely useful, as well as attractive, to have voltages displayed at a glance alongside the temperatures of different areas of the case... especially when dealing with AMD's rather unreliable temp sensors.
    If I have to ALT+Tab out of whatever I'm doing to go look at whichever software people are about to suggest I use, then it's too inconvenient and occasionally problematic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    The car dashboard isn't a bad analogy though, in the context of the purpose of the device.
    I would extend that to the actual design and implementation of the dashboard, including the aesthetics of it, too... Because if it were all about fit for purpose and nothing to do with how the thing looks, we'd all be driving butt-ugly cars.

    Just like my car, I have to live with my PC and it's one of the most expensive things I've ever bought. I insist that, for that kind of money, it looks as good as it performs... and looks as if it cost me as much as it did!

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    Most, maybe all, of the info you mention has no relevance to me for my use of the PC,
    I find almost nothing has any relevance for you....
    But some of us do find this relevant. As is, there was no facility for it on my system and I had to mod it in myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    Beyond that, I expect my PC cases to do the PC equivalent of the old adage about well-behaved children ... be seen and not heard, but in the PC's case, barely seen and not heard.
    Back when I first got into gaming a machine with these specs sounded like pure fantasy, the kind of thing that would only be found powering a spaceship, the device of dreams.... now it's a reality, I want it to look like it came out of those dreams.

    If I wanted dull and boring, I'd be on the Apple forums... or more likely wearing a flat cap and sat in a coffee shop, writing my novel on a MacBook!

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