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    AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    Ryzen CPU optimised power plan is a great alternative to the 'High Performance' plan.
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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    So a fix is being touted as a new feature?
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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    So a fix is being touted as a new feature?
    What bug are you claiming is being fixed?

    This story includes an optimised power plan which is less aggressive about power saving than the default Windows balanced plan, and a patch for a game that includes optimisations for Ryzen processors. Neither the plan nor the patch is fixing anything, as nothing is actually broken. Both the power plan and the game were working as designed.

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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    So a fix is being touted as a new feature?
    Or optimisations delivering optimised performance for free.

    Looking at the Warhammer numbers the performance has jumped 11%. That's three generations worth of Intel CPU upgrades. Add the performance from the power plan and that could be 5 generations worth. Intel want £500-£700 for that kind of improvement and it takes 5-7 years to deliver. AMD have done it in 2 months for free.

    Yeah, we should all take shaithis stance and slag AMD off for doing this.

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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    Yeah, we should all take shaithis stance and slag AMD off for doing this.
    My comments were at the news article, not the FIX by AMD.....but hey, don't let that get in the way of finding a reason to attack me.

    AMD fixed the power profile, hexus report it like they've added a new feature....and it is a fix, or are you going to imply some nefarious plot to put intel optimisations into the Windows power plans to scupper AMDs launch? It's not like AMD couldn't test the power plans prior to release was it?
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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    Handbags down people...
    The Win 10 stuff is known to favour Intel because let's face it they have a huge market advantage.
    Better we applaud AMD for coming with a tweak (not a fix really) to improve their product so quickly. Because they do things slightly differently these things will happen moving forward to improve things for us the consumer, don't forget that
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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    I would expect these tweaks to benefit Intel CPUs as well - they certainly mirror a tweak with the park states I remember applying.

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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    Yeah, we should all take shaithis stance and slag AMD off for doing this.
    My comments were at the news article, not the FIX by AMD.....but hey, don't let that get in the way of finding a reason to attack me.

    AMD fixed the power profile, hexus report it like they've added a new feature....and it is a fix, or are you going to imply some nefarious plot to put intel optimisations into the Windows power plans to scupper AMDs launch? It's not like AMD couldn't test the power plans prior to release was it?
    I'm reading the article and taking it for what it is, like any sensible person would.

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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    It was never really "broken" to begin with, just optimized for older generations of hardware and almost vestigial today.

    Remember that Intel has been supplying their own drivers for some time now that completely overrides Windows 10's timers and thresholds for P-state transitions, so only 3+ generations old systems still actually use them.

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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    My comments were at the news article, not the FIX by AMD.....but hey, don't let that get in the way of finding a reason to attack me.
    Did we read different articles :/

    I really cant see why you're so upset with the presentation of information by Hexus.

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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

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    I would expect these tweaks to benefit Intel CPUs as well - they certainly mirror a tweak with the park states I remember applying.
    Depends on the chip, for anyone with an SST enabled board and chip it would probably reduce performance if it started to apply park control as this isn't needed with SST due to the autonomous mode handling it at the CPU instead of OS.

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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    Quote Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq View Post
    It was never really "broken" to begin with, just optimized for older generations of hardware and almost vestigial today.

    Remember that Intel has been supplying their own drivers for some time now that completely overrides Windows 10's timers and thresholds for P-state transitions, so only 3+ generations old systems still actually use them.
    Thanks, just loaded the intel chipset inf drivers on my z170. Forgot about it before. Maybe it will help.

    As for AMD's improved power plan, it's welcome, but MS needs to code a proper fix ASAP. (edit: probably not)
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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    Quote Originally Posted by Millennium View Post
    ... MS needs to code a proper fix ASAP.
    A proper fix for what? You're the second person in this thread to claim something needs "fixing" when there's no evidence of anything being broken...

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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    At least the R5 series should look relatively better!


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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    A proper fix for what? You're the second person in this thread to claim something needs "fixing" when there's no evidence of anything being broken...
    Yeah, reading around I take it back scaryjim. AMD have said the Win10 scheduler is fine for Ryzen. There may be some small improvements MS could make with regard to core parking behaviour on Ryzen vs Intel, but it's unlikely to make enough difference for anyone to really notice.

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    Re: AMD releases custom 'Balanced' power plan for Ryzen users

    Quote Originally Posted by Millennium View Post
    ... There may be some small improvements MS could make with regard to core parking behaviour on Ryzen vs Intel ...
    AFAIK Intel actually provide a CPU driver that prevents core parking on their CPUs, rather than it being something Microsoft have implemented at an OS level. I suspect AMD will eventually release a similar driver through Windows Update; I'd guess that'll take a while to go through certification though, whereas making an alternative power plan available is something they can do directly so is a quicker optmisation...?

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