Service packs will be like DLC which you need to buy :]
Service packs will be like DLC which you need to buy :]
Link to the patch that fixes win7 updated for Kaby Lake and Ryzen cpus
screw MSFT. Die win10, DIE! What the heck would I buy an OS for if it only last 18 months? The deal is even worse now than before...LOL.
At work we've had our first issue due to Windows 10 auto-patching, seems the Creator's edition has altered some or all of the cryptography components within the .Net framework and our licencing mechanism went beserk.
Cue frantic patching and much swearing from the development team in trying to isolate where and why this was failing.
Even more frustrating, the issue doesn't occur if you have Visual Studio installed, so unless we fancy doing a complete build to an installer each time Microsoft releases an update, we've got next to no hope in keeping up
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This is bunny and friends. He is fed up waiting for everyone to help him out, and decided to help himself instead!
Years ago, I had software that wouldn't run on a new version of an OS. But because I controlled when, and indeed, if I upgraded, I discovered that on a test system prior to converting live systems. I also had hardware that ceased working due to driver changes in a service pack, but again, found out in a test environment. In both cases, the software and hardware was important enough to me that my solution was to not upgrade at all.
But, in their 'wisdom', MS has decided that, except for select versions, they know better than me what I want on my systems. Well, no, MS, you blooming don't.
Noli nothis permittere te terere.
OK these things are easier in Linux, but just saying I don't think it is a Windows specific problem.
Of course, they could start offering a subscription model as an alternative.
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I wonder how long before Microsoft drop the '10'. Seems like it would be sensible to eventually just refer to it as 'Windows', given that they've already said that 10 is the final major release
Plus you can get Insider releases in advance of public availability, giving an even longer testing period to find and resolve any compatibility issues.
Of course, this only really works if you're a large enough organisation to be able to invest in an internal IT department and to run proper enterprise versions of Windows. If you're an SME it'd be difficult to justify staff just to do that testing. OTOH, to me that just screams opportunity for SME tech support companies to offer a Windows compatibility testing service....
The old financial model for Windows would bring in a whole heap of money once every 3 - 5 years as people jumped on the new OS bandwagon, and then a steady but low revenue for the remaining period as people who were out of line with the OS launches bought/built new computers ... plus a steady regular income from people on the various volume licensing scheme.
If they can move to all Windows users paying a small subscription every year, that's going to make their annual financials a lot more stable. And if you're an enterprise IT manager looking at the costing of your software licensing, MS offering you a regular per user or per device annual license for the software is going to make planning much easier than having to predict how many new licenses you're going to need to invest in each year and buying them in a block.
The unknown is how this is going to work for normal consumers. MS clearly want to move the PC into more of a consumer electronics market, and people aren't used to that - they're used to buying a computer and having it work until they get a new one. OTOH the vast majority of the market know Windows and will want to use it, so there's ahuge commercial inertia there, so if they don't make it too egregious then they'll likely keep the vast majority of those customers too.
So, will they suffer a hit in user count? Probably, but it's unlikely to be a significant one. Will the subscription revenue make up for it? In terms of planning and financial performance, probably, because their annual finances will become a lot more predictable and easier for them to manage. And that's probably more important to them than counting every last cent...
Oh, and isn't the PC enthusiast group growing at a fair rate of knots?
I would definitely agree with the licensing strategy for firms. That said, again, Microsoft would likely have to tempt them away from whatever their current systems are over to a new subscription version, and render their old license assets much less valuable.
Pricing would be nigh on impossible for them to decide on; and I bet it'll start low and increase. The good news is that Windows has essentially become like a service rather than a one time product so they are sort of already in a position to swap to subscription.
I don't believe there's any indication yet that MS are going to start bricking devices once they go out of support. Windows feature updates are supported for 18 months, then go out of support. I've not yet seen anything to say they expire (which does happen to insider updates, and that does brick your device).
So - assuming MS move to some sort of subscription model for Windows feature updates - if someone buys a new PC but opts not to subscribe for feature updates, they get still "quality updates" for 18 months*. Based on how MS have dealt with the Win 7/8.1 unsupported hardware scenario, the likelihood is they'll then cease to get any updates, but will continue to be able to use their device - although I imagine they'll get frequent reminders that they're not getting any updates and suggesting they might want to part with some cash to upgrade to the latest version.
But to reiterate my key point there - nothing I have read so far indicates that MS will brick devices that don't keep up to date with the latest version. And if that remains the case and they move to a subscription mode for feature updates, it will actually give people who don't care about being "officially supported" the update-free OS they seem to so desperately want....
*EDIT: just to add: many OEMs currently offer a trial subscription to Office 365 on new devices. I wonder if we might see something similar with Windows if it moves to a subscription model: 12 months free trail (i.e. two feature updates) and then you'd have to pay for more...
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