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    FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Claimed to be a world first. Features 80 Plus Platinum certification and RGB LED lighting.
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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Nice, I have been wanting a liquid cooled power supply for a while,

    My current Seasonic powersupply is quiet, but when gaming the noisiest thing from the whole PC is the fan in the power supply.

    I will be watching out for these becoming available
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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Eh... there's plenty of liquid cooled ATX PSUs?!? I already had one by SilentMaxx over a decade ago. Acceptable marketing lies I guess.

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Quote Originally Posted by Nifl View Post
    Eh... there's plenty of liquid cooled ATX PSUs?!? I already had one by SilentMaxx over a decade ago. Acceptable marketing lies I guess.
    Link please. Because all I see from SilentMaxx are passive air cooled PSUs

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Quote Originally Posted by Potbellieddwarf View Post
    Nice, I have been wanting a liquid cooled power supply for a while,

    My current Seasonic powersupply is quiet, but when gaming the noisiest thing from the whole PC is the fan in the power supply.

    I will be watching out for these becoming available
    You'd be better off with an air cooled one that stays passive until it hits a thermal ceiling. In my experience fans attached to watercooling rads tend to be noisier as they need to provide more pressure.


    I can't see the need for this, components are getting more efficient and drawing less power leading to less thirsty PSUs required (and they're also getting more efficient. I can't see the use case & I can see the pitfalls. I've never looked at my PCU and thought "That's a bit too simple, robust and reliable, I wish there was some needless over complication I could add to it."

    Still, the market will decide.

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Quote Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq View Post
    Link please. Because all I see from SilentMaxx are passive air cooled PSUs
    You could have tried like... googling it. Took me 2 Seconds. http://www.aquatuning.de/gehaeuse-und-hardware/netzteile/netzteile-wassergekuehlt/5815/silentmaxx-fanless-watercooled-600w-10/8mm-g1/8

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    I guess the question is how much can a decent heatsink dispense before a fan is required?
    A 600W Titanium supply running at full load is supposed have a min of 94% efficient so would waste 38W. At 50% load it should be 96% efficient, so wasting 12.5W. As long the design is able to disperse those 13W passively, there is no need to run a fan. And even gaming with a single high-end and a modest overclock the expected system load is about 350W (Hexus' most recent 1080Ti review with a i7-6700K @ 4.4GHz), any PSU fan wouldn't have to run much. (350W at 96% is still only 15W waste heat.)

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Koolance was quite modest about their claim, back in 2001.

    Quote Originally Posted by Koolance
    ... believed to be the world's first ...


    http://koolance.com/psu-230atx-12n_2...d_power_supply

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Quote Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nifl View Post
    Eh... there's plenty of liquid cooled ATX PSUs?!? I already had one by SilentMaxx over a decade ago. Acceptable marketing lies I guess.
    Link please. Because all I see from SilentMaxx are passive air cooled PSUs

    http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Slilentmaxx+watercooled+power+supplies

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Koolance also had one http://koolance.com/1300-1700w-liquid-cooled-power-supply
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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    The worlds first will have an asterisk somewhere that says "*worlds first in 2017" i bet xD

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Apparently FSPA make the psu if various big brands, unfortunately FSP is the only brand of psu I've had fail

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    I think they might be banking on the "mass produced" part of the claim ("the world's first mass produced liquid cooled PSU," ), though there's not way to really know how many have been produced of any of these models...

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Quote Originally Posted by globalwarning View Post
    I think they might be banking on the "mass produced" part of the claim ("the world's first mass produced liquid cooled PSU," ), though there's not way to really know how many have been produced of any of these models...
    Ok... Looking at the link to the FSP/Bitspower page, I see "World's Only" in their claim, which is totally different then "first." They are claiming it is patented, so clearly they did something different, but they don't say what. I'd love to see a teardown, but right now, their claim is either BS or they are saying something strange like "no one else is currently mass producing these, so we are the only ones." Which is pretty silly...

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    ...but it still has a fan

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    Re: FSP and Bitspower unveil the Hydro PTM+ liquid cooled PSU

    Quote Originally Posted by spacein_vader View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Potbellieddwarf View Post
    Nice, I have been wanting a liquid cooled power supply for a while,

    My current Seasonic powersupply is quiet, but when gaming the noisiest thing from the whole PC is the fan in the power supply.

    I will be watching out for these becoming available
    You'd be better off with an air cooled one that stays passive until it hits a thermal ceiling. In my experience fans attached to watercooling rads tend to be noisier as they need to provide more pressure.


    I can't see the need for this, components are getting more efficient and drawing less power leading to less thirsty PSUs required (and they're also getting more efficient. I can't see the use case & I can see the pitfalls. I've never looked at my PCU and thought "That's a bit too simple, robust and reliable, I wish there was some needless over complication I could add to it."

    Still, the market will decide.
    I alraedy have a PSU where the fan does not come on during normal use, but once gaming and the usage gets above the 25% load I can hear the PSU fan.

    And with regards to radiators and fans being noisy I totally disagree, I have had several full custom loops and have never had very noisy fans, but I do use Hardware Labs 30mm thick radiators that are designed to be especially effective with slow turning fans. It is the thicker radiators where I have found the fans need to turn faster and therefore noisier.

    But I also use multiple radiators because if you have more radiators you have more surface area to dissipate the heat, so long as you have a powerful enough pump setup it can be very quiet.

    I have a watercooled 5930K with 2 Maxwell Titan X's, I cool them through two 420mm (3 x 140mm) and a 140mm radiators, I use 2 D5 Vario pumps on a moderate setting, I have all my fans running at about 750rpm so they are almost silent, this is why when the PSU fan spins up I can clearly hear it over the whole system. When gaming my temps are CPU at 50'C and both graphics cards at 40 to 42'C.

    If one of these PSU's works like it should then in my case I could remove the one noise that annoys me, but for me the whole reason I watercool is for my PC to be silent.
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