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    Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Improved with 165-degree hinge, 13.5 hour battery, and fanless Core i5 version.
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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    From all reports I've seen the pen isn't included anymore so you can add on another £70 by the looks of it.... seriously how can you call it a surface pro if it doesn't have the one thing that makes it a pro device in the box....

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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Does anyone know what the actual processor model(s) on offer are? Thanks to Intel renaming their Core M's into i5's and i7's, it's impossible to tell whether they are all 4.5w CPUs or if the i5 is a 15w CPU (presumably the i7 is, or it wouldn't need a fan)

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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Imagine an article writer actually providing something over and above what they're paid to push!

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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Quote Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq View Post
    Does anyone know what the actual processor model(s) on offer are? Thanks to Intel renaming their Core M's into i5's and i7's, it's impossible to tell whether they are all 4.5w CPUs or if the i5 is a 15w CPU (presumably the i7 is, or it wouldn't need a fan)
    Look at the iGPU. The i5s and i7s are not renamed Core M, as all renamed Core M chips have the HD Graphics 615.

    If the pen's not included, that sucks. And still no USB-C, Microsoft? Seriously? This is getting ridiculous.

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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Actually read why MS didn't include USB C. It makes sense. It's a confusing port and, frankly, I won't miss it at all.

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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur1814 View Post
    I won't miss it at all.
    Yes, but it would have been nice to include a dongle for the surface connector to USB-C.

    Right now I've no need for USB-C in my travelling life. But I will one day, so I'd prefer to not have to carry a dongle today, but carry one for the last year of it's life.
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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    USB-C is great for power delivery. I can carry a single small charger that can top up my phone and run my laptop, which is really convenient

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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    I can carry a single small charger that can top up my phone and run my laptop, which is really convenient
    But the power charger for the surface has an additional USB port for charging a phone. So you already only need one charger. If you brought an even smaller one, I doubt it would have the current required to charge the tablet.
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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Yes, but it would have been nice to include a dongle for the surface connector to USB-C.
    Can't remember which site I saw this in a video but apparently there is a dongle which converts the usb into a usb with support for power too...

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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    But the power charger for the surface has an additional USB port for charging a phone. So you already only need one charger. If you brought an even smaller one, I doubt it would have the current required to charge the tablet.
    It's only a 15w CPU, as long as you aren't running prime95 a 15w charger will easily add to the battery and would be noticeably smaller while still charging a phone at a good rate. I don't use my laptop much without plugging it in, so all I want in a portable charger is the ability to keep the battery topped up while it's in use

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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur1814 View Post
    Imagine an article writer actually providing something over and above what they're paid to push!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valantar View Post
    Look at the iGPU. The i5s and i7s are not renamed Core M, as all renamed Core M chips have the HD Graphics 615.
    Good point, didn't know that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Valantar View Post
    If the pen's not included, that sucks. And still no USB-C, Microsoft? Seriously? This is getting ridiculous.
    If you look at the Surface Laptop article it suggests they originally designed that device with USB-C but later removed it in the final version because "reasons" *cough*.

    I don't know what those reasons are but they claim it's because power consumption or some crap, I wouldn't be surprised if they deliberately left out USB-C on the SP-5-but-not-5 too.

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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    But the power charger for the surface has an additional USB port for charging a phone. So you already only need one charger. If you brought an even smaller one, I doubt it would have the current required to charge the tablet.
    Actually you can get USB chargers half the size that deliver enough to power the tablet and 3+ additional USB ports - I have a 6-port one and it's super useful for travelling with. One charger for my 2 phones + anyone I'm travelling with, mouse, portable battery pack, USB lights, and more. If it weren't for the fact my laptop wants a 240W charger, I'd definitely be choosing one with USB-C to charge with the one charger too.

    In fact, not charging over USB-C (which actually I was hoping my laptop would do, but alas, Dell XPS' do but Alienwares do not) is a complete deal breaker which is why I never bought the previous Surface Pro and won't be buying this one.

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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Then you would want the C adapter they are releasing?
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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Is there any gains in upgrading from a Surface Pro 4 to this new one?
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    Re: Microsoft introduces new Surface Pro in Shanghai

    Longer battery life and slightly faster vicar. So probably no real need.
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