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    Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    In a side by side SDR / HDR games demo it is said to have hobbled the SDR monitor settings.
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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    nVidia sneaky? GTFO!

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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    HDR... Just another marketing word to sell you the same crap that you already own. Sure, yeah, it might 'look nice' in some ways but the extra cash? Not worth it at all. Monitor = £160. Add a buzz word = £240.

    We really musts top falling for all of this fluff.

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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    I actually prefer the look of HDR, that's if the examples shown in the video weren't Nvidia's attempt at gimping things and the properly adjusted SDR, yes the colors look more muted but i quite like that.

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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    The same tricks are used to make 3DMARK and many other software perform significantly better than AMD.

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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    The same tricks are used to make 3DMARK and many other software perform significantly better than AMD.
    What, you can make them faster by adjusting the monitors brightness??

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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    The same tricks are used to make 3DMARK and many other software perform significantly better than AMD.
    What, you can make them faster by adjusting the monitors brightness??
    Maybe he was thinking of the Batman skullduggery? Who knows, but you did make me laugh

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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    I actually prefer the look of HDR, that's if the examples shown in the video weren't Nvidia's attempt at gimping things and the properly adjusted SDR, yes the colors look more muted but i quite like that.
    Agreed. Colours don't 'pop' IRL. The shadows were much more convincingly blended with the textures and incident lighting. The HDR samples were clearly more photo-realistic.
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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    The same tricks are used to make 3DMARK and many other software perform significantly better than AMD.
    Whatever you say. Are AMD fanboys THIS delusional?

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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    Not surprising it's Nvidia, but any PC display that is not UHD Premium certified is not a real HDR display to begin with in my eyes as the UHD spec guarantees HDR meets certain criteria.

    A lot of PC monitor makers are jumping on HDR bandwagon but these are not UHD Premium certified displays they are their own attempts at HDR even some of the big names are doing it like Dell.

    It's very disappointing, if you want real HDR the only solution is to get a TV for now.

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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    Quote Originally Posted by Kato-2 View Post
    Not surprising it's Nvidia, but any PC display that is not UHD Premium certified is not a real HDR display to begin with in my eyes as the UHD spec guarantees HDR meets certain criteria.
    The UHD Premium certification has a gaping hole in it that no actual increased on-screen range is required to qualify (i.e. Local dimming on LCDs).

    So while TV manufacturers have been reasonable so far with it, it's certainly a poor benchmark and I'd be looking at actual hardware capabilities instead.

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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    Somebody get that guy in the Youtube video some acoustic panels!

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    Re: Nvidia accused of HDR gaming showcase skulduggery

    High-dynamic-range is, technically, is the range between the darkest pixel and the brightest. A digital camera sensor being able to capture about 12 stops of range. Which works out around 4000:1 static contrast ratio on a monitor.

    When HDR is mentioned, a lot of people think about HDR photos that "pop" - these work by extending a camera's dynamic-range by over and under exposing some shots and merging the highlights and shadows from each to get the detail of both. In essence this is compressing the capturing range into a SDR image - the pop is just local processing, you can do it on a SDR source as well.

    From what I've seen of monitors recently there aren't really any that can produce the level of nits or static-contrast that give the term "HDR" any credibility.

    Colour gamut is something else again.

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