Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 55

Thread: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    31,709
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    2,073 times in 719 posts

    QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    Or is being locked exclusively to the Windows Store too big a limitation?
    Read more.

  2. #2
    <Insert witty one liner> Kanoe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    969
    Thanks
    96
    Thanked
    109 times in 77 posts
    • Kanoe's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus ROG STRIX X299-E GAMING II
      • CPU:
      • Intel 7960X (4.4GHZ All Core)
      • Memory:
      • 64GB Corsair Vengeance PRO (8 x 8GB) 3200
      • Storage:
      • 1x 2TB M.2, 2x 1TB M.2, 960GB SSD, 2TB HDD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nvidia 3080 FE (1965MHz @906mV +1500 VRAM)
      • PSU:
      • Superflower 1200W
      • Case:
      • Phanteks Enthoo Primo v2
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • 28" Gigabyte M28U 4k + 24" Dell U2412M
      • Internet:
      • Zen 1 Gig Fibre

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    Far too much of a limitation.

    Was trying to think if any windows device I owned (PC, Laptop, 2in1) could get by with it and I don't think I could. Just like the flexibility and option to have the things I want on it the way I want it.

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Location
    Merseyside
    Posts
    570
    Thanks
    19
    Thanked
    37 times in 31 posts
    • EvilCycle's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS ROG MAXIMUS IX HERO
      • CPU:
      • Intel I7 7700K (OC to 4.8GHz on Corsair H100i V2)
      • Memory:
      • 32GB Corsair Vengeance DDR4 @ 3000MHz
      • Storage:
      • WD Blue SN550 1TB NVMe SSD, Samsung 840 evo 120GB SSD + 2 x 500GB 72000rpm HDD's
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte AORUS GeForce RTX 2080 XTREME
      • PSU:
      • DEEPCOOL DQ 750st
      • Case:
      • Corsair Obsidian Series 750D Airflow Edition
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • 27" 1440p 60hz AOC q2778vqe
      • Internet:
      • Virgin Media 380Mb (Fibre Optic)

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    No! It is promoting the use of locked down operating systems whereby you can only use software approved by the owner of said system and limits/hinders progression, it is all about control and I hate it.

  4. #4
    Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    1
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    I owned a dell venue 8 pro for a few years, and owned it from the start. on small devices with celeron/atom processors UWP absolutly run faster. I would only use windows 10 s on a devices like this. The idea of running windows 10 S on the new surface laptop seems stupid. But then again for 50 bucks to upgrade to windows 10 pro isnt bad. This will be a threat to general macbook users, because if it is only UWP it will run fast and be very efficient. and with this running on normal processors instead of arm processors there are way more options. I believe that with windows build we will learn more about UWP containers being able to run android apps, and maybe (but not likely) ios apps. Also the idea of having 32bit apps running inside of the UWP container could be presented strongly. This is more than windows rt 2.0, it really does seem like chromebook os except with windows apps and upgrade paths. for the general user this really will work great. I'd buy a windows 10 s machine if it fit in my backback for school, but the price would have to be below 250. This makes way more sense as a productivity device than the ipad pro and I think it will sell well this august. But Microsoft can't afford to screw up their marketing on this one.

  5. #5
    MCRN Tachi Ttaskmaster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Reading, UK
    Posts
    6,917
    Thanks
    673
    Thanked
    806 times in 668 posts
    • Ttaskmaster's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Aorus Master X670E
      • CPU:
      • Ryzen 7800X3D
      • Memory:
      • 32GB Corsair Dominator DDR5 6000MHz
      • Storage:
      • Samsung Evo 120GB and Seagate Baracuda 2TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Aorus Master 4090
      • PSU:
      • EVGA Supernova G2 1000W
      • Case:
      • Lian Li V3000 Plus
      • Operating System:
      • Win11
      • Monitor(s):
      • Gigabyte M32U
      • Internet:
      • 900Mbps Gigaclear WHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    But on the flip side, does the Windows Store offer everything you need?
    Of course not!!!!!!!!
    This is simply ridiculous....

    Steam, Origin, Uplay, VLC, WhatsApp, Skype... I could probably name a hundred common(ish) apps on mobile or desktop platforms that many people use but probably wouldn't find in the WinStore....

    Students likely using stats and research apps, musicians using tab and recording apps, gamers all over the place...

    No.
    Just no.

  6. #6
    Theoretical Element Spud1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    North West
    Posts
    7,508
    Thanks
    336
    Thanked
    320 times in 255 posts
    • Spud1's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Aorus Master
      • CPU:
      • 9900k
      • Memory:
      • 16GB GSkill Trident Z
      • Storage:
      • Lots.
      • Graphics card(s):
      • RTX3090
      • PSU:
      • 750w
      • Case:
      • BeQuiet Dark Base Pro rev.2
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • Asus PG35VQ
      • Internet:
      • 910/100mb Fibre

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    It depends on use case.

    As a portable device, maybe. I owned a Surface RT for a year and it worked really well as a portable tablet device with office built in..at the time my work laptop was a beast so I would take the RT to client meetings etc and it was absolutely fine. You have office, Skype, Whatsapp, casual games, Tabbing/music/paint/photoshop apps etc...So maybe, if I couldn't afford a "proper" machine/OS.

    As a desktop/home use machine? No, as I play a lot of games and as a result need the freedom to run games/steam and the like

  7. #7
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    99
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    3 times in 3 posts
    • meuvoy's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI Z97-G45
      • CPU:
      • Intel Core i5 4460
      • Memory:
      • 8GB Kingston 1866Mhz
      • Storage:
      • Adata 128GB SSD + 1,7TB HDD (inTotal)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Nvidia Geforce GTX 970
      • PSU:
      • EVGA 750B2
      • Case:
      • Cougar 6GR1 Evolution
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8.1 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • 29" 21:9 Philips Brilliance 298P4QJEB

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    As my uncle would say: Nevar!!!

    How would I work without my so valuable softwares? not even 10% of the softwares I use is on windows store, so no no thank you very much!

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,207
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked
    114 times in 102 posts

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    Nope not on something like the surface laptop/pro because with that hardware I'd likely end up using it for work with things adobe photoshop cs6 that came before cc and will NEVER be in the store. There's no guarantee things like full photoshop etc will go into the store either.
    Then there's all the little 'helper programs' that we install like in my case shark007 codec pack and drivers for some things which are not in windows update.

    Then there's steam store which likely won't go there either.

    On a 'consumption tablet' ie like a windows iPad...maybe but I would need to be able to install the browser of my choice (firefox) and set it as default which you can't, and you can't change the search engine in edge either apparently.

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Sussex
    Posts
    112
    Thanks
    13
    Thanked
    9 times in 8 posts
    • fail_quail's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASRock X570M Pro 4
      • CPU:
      • Ryzen 7 3700x
      • Memory:
      • 32GB DDR4 3200mhz
      • Storage:
      • 512GB NVME SSD x2, 320GB SATA SSHD, 4TB HDD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • AMD RX580 8GB
      • PSU:
      • Corsair 750W
      • Case:
      • corsair carbide 88r
      • Operating System:
      • Win10 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 24" Dell WFP 2408 + cheap 22" LG monitor
      • Internet:
      • 100meg Virgin cable

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    Absolutely not.

    This is the core reason i've never owned an Apple phone (whilst a little fiddly to get not-store apps going, it's very doable on android).
    And also the reason i use a 11-12" laptop over a tablet of any type (I want to run things other than mobile apps)

    At this point i'd treat a device with 10 S as an essentially blank device i'd need to find a working OS for before it's really usable.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    850
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked
    34 times in 30 posts
    • flearider's system
      • Motherboard:
      • asrock taichi x370
      • CPU:
      • ryzen 1700@4ghz
      • Memory:
      • 16gb gskill flare cl14 3200
      • Storage:
      • 500mb 850 evo + 1tb hd space
      • Graphics card(s):
      • gigabyte r9 290
      • PSU:
      • evga 850
      • Case:
      • LD PC-V8 ATX/HPTX Red 2xtripple 1xquad rads
      • Operating System:
      • win 7 ulti
      • Monitor(s):
      • toshiba 32"
      • Internet:
      • 65 d/30 up ee

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    hold on I though they had to let other things use it ? wasn't this why they got done over explorer ?
    it's a clear case of locking it down so you spend money with them ..
    What does it matter now if men believe or no?
    What is to come will come. And soon you too will stand aside,
    To murmur in pity that my words were true
    (Cassandra, in Agamemnon by Aeschylus)

    To see the wizard one must look behind the curtain ....

  11. #11
    Gentoo Ricer
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Galway
    Posts
    11,048
    Thanks
    1,016
    Thanked
    944 times in 704 posts
    • aidanjt's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus Strix Z370-G
      • CPU:
      • Intel i7-8700K
      • Memory:
      • 2x8GB Corsiar LPX 3000C15
      • Storage:
      • 500GB Samsung 960 EVO
      • Graphics card(s):
      • EVGA GTX 970 SC ACX 2.0
      • PSU:
      • EVGA G3 750W
      • Case:
      • Fractal Design Define C Mini
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Asus MG279Q
      • Internet:
      • 240mbps Virgin Cable

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    No. The Windows Store is a complete disaster. And I have absolutely zero interest in being stuck in Microsoft's service bubble.
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent View Post
    ...every time Creative bring out a new card range their advertising makes it sound like they have discovered a way to insert a thousand Chuck Norris super dwarfs in your ears...

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,207
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked
    114 times in 102 posts

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    Quote Originally Posted by flearider View Post
    hold on I though they had to let other things use it ? wasn't this why they got done over explorer ?
    it's a clear case of locking it down so you spend money with them ..
    It's 'unlockable' so they're probably covered there.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Location
    Huntingdon
    Posts
    555
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked
    28 times in 22 posts
    • Rubarb's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI H81m-E33
      • CPU:
      • G3258
      • Memory:
      • 8GB hyper x beast
      • Storage:
      • 120ssd, 2gb hdd
      • Graphics card(s):
      • msi gtx960 4gb
      • PSU:
      • seasonic 450w
      • Case:
      • Thermaltake mozrt tx
      • Operating System:
      • windows 10
      • Monitor(s):
      • samsung 24'
      • Internet:
      • 100mb

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    No chance ! the windows store is a compete mess with apps for phones mixed up with pc aplications to the point where nobody has a clue, most of what it offers is simply spam or useless wares not fit to be sold.

    Windows 10 pro is at the limit where I draw the line any more locked and I'm off to use linux or windows 7 again.

  14. #14
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    12,978
    Thanks
    778
    Thanked
    1,586 times in 1,341 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X470-PRO
      • CPU:
      • 5900X
      • Memory:
      • 32GB 3200MHz ECC
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Linux, 2TB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix RX Vega 56
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 39 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Iiyama 27" 1440p
      • Internet:
      • Zen 900Mb/900Mb (CityFibre FttP)

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    Can I install Linux on the machine, or is the boot loader locked down?

    Because I'm not comfortable using any Windows 10 variant really.

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Aberlour, NE Scotland
    Posts
    609
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked
    27 times in 26 posts
    • pastymuncher's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro
      • CPU:
      • i5 9600K @ 5Ghz
      • Memory:
      • 16Gb Gskill Trident 3866mhz
      • Storage:
      • 250Gb Samsung 970 Evo Polaris+960GB Corsair MP510
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Inno3D GTX1070 iChill Air Boss X3
      • PSU:
      • BeQuiet Straight Power 11 550w
      • Case:
      • Self built desk mod
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell S2716DG Rev A04
      • Internet:
      • BT Fibre

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    No, windows 10 is bad enough as it is regarding choice (or lack of when it comes to updates) let alone being tied to the windows store. That was one of the first things I uninstalled after getting 10 up and running so why would I ever want to be tied to it?

  16. #16
    I'm special azrael-'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Aarhus, Denmark
    Posts
    1,074
    Thanks
    67
    Thanked
    113 times in 92 posts
    • azrael-'s system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS Prime X470-Pro
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 7 3800X
      • Memory:
      • 64 GB ECC DDR4 2666 MHz (Samsung M391A2K43BB1-CTD)
      • Storage:
      • 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 1 TB Samsung 850 EVO, 12 TB WD HDDs
      • Graphics card(s):
      • eVGA GTX 1080 SC Gaming, 8 GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic X-Series 560W
      • Case:
      • Corsair Obsidian 550D
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Acer Predator XB271HU
      • Internet:
      • VDSL 55/12 Mbit/s

    Re: QOTW: Would you be comfortable using Windows 10 S?

    Considering I won't even use the regular Windows 10 (Pro) I'm not even sure how I should classify my stance on Windows 10 S.

    As for the "unlockable" part, it's only free for the first year. Which begs the question: What were the people at Microsoft smoking when they thought it would be a good idea to bundle what is basically a Windows "Starter Edition" with high-priced hardware like the Surface Laptop.

Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •