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    AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Meanwhile in GPU land: AMD Tweets to confirm Radeon RX Vega launch at SIGGRAPH.
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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    "Looking at Passmark's CPU usage graphs, derived from benchmarks completed using its software, we see that in Q4 2017 only 17.8 per cent of the tests were done on AMD hardware"

    Hexus, looking into the future already? Doesn't look good for AMD, I hope it was either that Intel seriously stepped up their game or AMD ran out of stock

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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    I went from always using Athlon, Athlon XP & Opteron, then I switched to Core2Quad when they came out and have seen no reason to switch back.

    Nice to see AMD on the up again They've been on the back foot for a while now.

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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Good to see this.The AMD platform is maturing quite nicely so far and appears like my next build will probably be AM4 based
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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Definitely nice to see the upwards curve again!

    I think it would be best to get back to at least 55/45 Intel vs AMD but I would settle with 60/40!

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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    AMD has dissapointed me by not introducing Ryzen budget level APUs for cheap laptops and desktops. Unfortunately the budget level ~$300 market segment is composed of celeron, pentium and i3 and is where the money is and AMD is very slow in coming up with the products in that department. I am not interested in Vega 10 or Threadripper. With such slow speed AMD will remain at 20% while Intel eats 80%

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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    AMD has dissapointed me by not introducing Ryzen budget level APUs for cheap laptops and desktops. Unfortunately the budget level ~$300 market segment is composed of celeron, pentium and i3 and is where the money is and AMD is very slow in coming up with the products in that department. I am not interested in Vega 10 or Threadripper. With such slow speed AMD will remain at 20% while Intel eats 80%
    As someone who works in another industry where we have the high end tied up I can tell you, you usually make as much if not more money on the top 20% than the bottom 80%. Intel make pennies on a celeron style cpu where as xeon or similar makes the big profits. You also have far less overheads selling one big high end product than 50 cheap products. It is also important AMD build a name for themselves with trendsetters before selling to the public at large as who would recommend AMD to friend/family/business without a high end product they've at least considered? AMD will have APU's out as soon as they can...
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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Steam hardware survey shows no significant change (0.04% move in Intel's favour).

    Headline: Iffy statistics are iffy!

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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Steam hardware survey shows no significant change (0.04% move in Intel's favour).

    Headline: Iffy statistics are iffy!
    because upgrading to amd if you want to play games makes no sense

    if you are going to shell out for new system you want to spend money where you know you will get returns... gaming on amd is still a lottery

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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Quote Originally Posted by aniilv View Post
    if you are going to shell out for new system you want to spend money where you know you will get returns... gaming on amd is still a lottery
    Honestly for the difference in FPS in most of the benchmarks, it's higher than where I'm sat on my current PC and costs significantly less adopting the AM4 platform than it does to go down the Intel path. That's money I can spend on better graphics or somewhere else in the system instead of feeding Intel massive profit margins.

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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    On Amazon UK the Ryzen 5 1600 is the best selling CPU and on Amazon US the Ryzen 5 1600 is the second best selling CPU,and instead of some £100 CPU its a £200 one,so AMD is selling more CPUs and at a better margin too.However,how many more CPUs will only be hinted at when we see their financial over the next few months TBH!!


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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    AMD has dissapointed me by not introducing Ryzen budget level APUs for cheap laptops and desktops. Unfortunately the budget level ~$300 market segment is composed of celeron, pentium and i3 and is where the money is and AMD is very slow in coming up with the products in that department. I am not interested in Vega 10 or Threadripper. With such slow speed AMD will remain at 20% while Intel eats 80%
    That's what Raven Ridge is for, they're using the Vega graphics component in it so you'll have to wait a while. As they were developing Zen and Vega concurrently they were likely planning on a tandem release so a Zen-Polaris APU wasn't planned for, not to mention that it would suck power like nobody's business to get the performance they were looking for.

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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Steam hardware survey shows no significant change (0.04% move in Intel's favour).

    Headline: Iffy statistics are iffy!
    The Steam hardware survey has a fairly weird demographic and has shown very odd results in the past. For CPUs it tends to show trends a couple of years out of date from what you would expect and for GPUs it tends to be oddly up to date.

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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Quote Originally Posted by HW90 View Post
    The Steam hardware survey has a fairly weird demographic and has shown very odd results in the past. For CPUs it tends to show trends a couple of years out of date from what you would expect and for GPUs it tends to be oddly up to date.
    I swear to God it would ask me to participate every single month when I used my old Phenom I 9150e / GTX 460 SE PC, and since building the new one I've participated in none whatsoever.

    Also, as we know, since it only covers people who use their PC to play games (and agree with online services like Steam) the information isn't entirely useful for market trends. I suppose AMD wouldn't want to celebrate about good results until EPYC / TR prove their worth as well.

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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Quote Originally Posted by HW90 View Post
    The Steam hardware survey has a fairly weird demographic and has shown very odd results in the past. For CPUs it tends to show trends a couple of years out of date from what you would expect and for GPUs it tends to be oddly up to date.
    Whereas this is a tally of people who want to run a specific synthetic benchmark. That has to be an even worse selection bias than Steam isn't it?

    Don't get me wrong, I would love AMD to get a big uplift in sales, I just don't see this as valid evidence that it has happened any more than the oddly laptop centric results on the Steam survey are good evidence that Intel are increasing their lead. Both results are iffy, different iffy, but iffy.

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    Re: AMD CPUs took nearly 10 per cent share from Intel so far this year

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Whereas this is a tally of people who want to run a specific synthetic benchmark. That has to be an even worse selection bias than Steam isn't it? ...
    Totes. This is perhaps the most selection-bias-prone stat I've seen this year.

    AMD won't have picked up anywhere like that kind of sales market share overall, because they don't have any processors addressing the bulk of the market yet. The big picture will play out towards the end of this year, when Ryzen 3 and Ryzen APUs are in the wild, particularly in mobile.

    I think the Steam hardware survey's interesting, as I know a lot of Steam users who definitely aren't enthusiasts, and might not even call themselves "gamers". I also know that Steam is installed on non-'gaming' machines in my household, for streaming purposes or casual gaming. I suspect in terms of total install base Steam is probably fairly representative of the computing market - maybe even more so than quarterly sales figures. OTOH, every time I look at the SHS results it just looks off.

    I suspect there is one company that could give you an accurate picture - Microsoft. If their telemetry doesn't log CPU and GPU details I'd be amazed. I imagine the only reason they don't already publish figures for Windows hardware platforms is that they wouldn't gain anything from it...

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