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    USB 3.2 specification doubles USB Type-C bandwidth

    Example: a USB 3.2 host with USB 3.2 storage will be capable of >2GB/sec data transfers.
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    Re: USB 3.2 specification doubles USB Type-C bandwidth

    I know it's just a spec and all that but ...

    * Surface Laptop - USB 3.0 with type A connector (or "full-size" as their marketing likes to call it)
    * Macbook - USB 3.1 Gen 1 (5Gbps)

    For these high-priced laptops it's just disappointing to me that they don't have a modern connector.

    Is USB 3.1 Gen 2 so much more expensive or difficult to integrate somehow? I have both a type-C and type-A 3.1 Gen 2 connector on my Asus Z170 motherboard which is about a year old already.

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    Re: USB 3.2 specification doubles USB Type-C bandwidth

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Parker View Post
    I know it's just a spec and all that but ...

    * Surface Laptop - USB 3.0 with type A connector (or "full-size" as their marketing likes to call it)
    * Macbook - USB 3.1 Gen 1 (5Gbps)

    For these high-priced laptops it's just disappointing to me that they don't have a modern connector.

    Is USB 3.1 Gen 2 so much more expensive or difficult to integrate somehow? I have both a type-C and type-A 3.1 Gen 2 connector on my Asus Z170 motherboard which is about a year old already.
    They are probably just going to cut corners where users won't notice. How many Mac users are really going to know the difference?

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    Re: USB 3.2 specification doubles USB Type-C bandwidth

    Basically, despite a load of machines offering the port, it's hardly set the world on fire. Just look on amazon for thumb drives. USB 3/3.1.

    This is just another golden carrot to try and make oems feature the port on all their machines. ZzzzZzz. yet another load of new cables. Sigh.

    But... At least it's damn fast.

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    Re: USB 3.2 specification doubles USB Type-C bandwidth

    Quote Originally Posted by Wozza365 View Post
    They are probably just going to cut corners where users won't notice. How many Mac users are really going to know the difference?
    I'm a Mac user ! And PC, and Linux. And ...

    I just want to them end this for the whole world :-

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    Re: USB 3.2 specification doubles USB Type-C bandwidth

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Parker View Post
    ...I just want to them end this for the whole world :-
    Won't work, I found myself turning over the USB-C cable for my phone to put the logo on top, then realised what I was doing and turned it over again...there is no hope...
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    Re: USB 3.2 specification doubles USB Type-C bandwidth

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Parker View Post
    I'm a Mac user ! And PC, and Linux. And ...

    I just want to them end this for the whole world :-
    That's what the surface connector does. Hence why they are able to produce a USB-C 3.1 adaptor for it, myself I think the magnetic docking is a much better idea.
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    Re: USB 3.2 specification doubles USB Type-C bandwidth

    I came up with an idea that has helped since back in the USB 2.0 days by putting a small mark on the up side of a male USB plug. Almost all my USB cables originally had no mark on the plugs, so I was always guessing. By up I mean the side which is up when the female port is on the PC with its internal lug on the lower side. It has made fitting USB plugs so much easier most of the time, especially the little mini and micro USB fittings like in mobile phones and external USB drives.
    But I do agree with "TheAnimus" that magnetic fittings and adapters would be even easier than just a USB type C fitting after recently trying out a friends magnetic cable. Getting a couple myself now.
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    Re: USB 3.2 specification doubles USB Type-C bandwidth

    The USB logo on the cable is meant to do that. Results may vary with cheap chinese cables, of course

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    Re: USB 3.2 specification doubles USB Type-C bandwidth

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    The USB logo on the cable is meant to do that. Results may vary with cheap chinese cables, of course
    All well and good to put on a logo, but if that logo is a barely raised bump which is the same colour as the rest (usually all black plastic on most of mine), it is very hard to make out and even harder in a dimly lit room. I have to rely on touch, which is not that good with calloused finger tips. To make matters even worse, some fittings have a logo on both sides. I posess cables which have come from all sorts of sources (have not bought any directly from China, but not always sure where they are made), and some come with a destinct mark (example - my original Samsung USB charging cables) albiet a bit small but still visible, but many others do not (example - the USB 2 cables that came with my portable drives from Seagate, WD). My original Logitech Harmony Ultimate USB charging cable has one slightly raised logo on the standard type "A" plug, but the micro USB fitting at the other end has no logo or mark at all - totally smooth.

    So I generally use a silver marking pen to leave a nice big, easy to see mark; and on some devices, I even leave a corresponding mark (sometimes a piece of sticky tape so as to not damage anything) on things I regularly use.
    But with these new type "C" ports and magnetic fittings, this will be a thing of the past.
    Now we can reach over and "click", no fiddling around, or trying to feel a little lump, having 2 or 3 attemps, etcetera.
    Just get it close enough and it is connected magnetically (with no "right side up" to worry about).
    "Remember way back when we used to have soo much trouble plugging in cables....."

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