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    Razer Atheris premier mobile productivity mouse launched

    Wireless mouse is claimed to offer "the world's longest-lasting battery life" (300 hrs +).
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    Re: Razer Atheris premier mobile productivity mouse launched

    I am surprised nobody has made a self charging mouse,using hand movements to trickle charge an internal battery.


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    Re: Razer Atheris premier mobile productivity mouse launched

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    I am surprised nobody has made a self charging mouse,using hand movements to trickle charge an internal battery.
    The obvious method using inertia to move a magnet relative to coils in the mouse (like a shake torch) might play merry hell with accuracy?

    A magnet in a mouseball (which could be implemented even if tracking remained optical) or a grid of magnets embedded in the mousemat would allow electricity generation during movement rather than during accelleration? I suspect a Qi enabled mousemat might be simpler though.

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    Re: Razer Atheris premier mobile productivity mouse launched

    Energy harvesting stuff just isn't really practical yet. You just don't tend to get enough energy out and once you start using it to charge a battery you get efficiency losses and it all becomes a big pointless mess. As above, you could use a ball with an electromagnetic kind of deelie but then you're going back to the horrors of ball mice. Qi charging mat would make a lot more sense but given the batteries in my wireless mouse last around a month (and it's an ancient mouse as well so the batteries aren't in the best of nick) and it requires about an hour to charge, it's really like using a sledgehammer to crack the proverbial nut. The inconvenience of charging is minor and the cost of such tech is relatively huge.

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    Re: Razer Atheris premier mobile productivity mouse launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian224 View Post
    I suspect a Qi enabled mousemat might be simpler though.

    It's already out there. http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/powerplay-wireless-charging
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    Re: Razer Atheris premier mobile productivity mouse launched

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian224 View Post
    The obvious method using inertia to move a magnet relative to coils in the mouse (like a shake torch) might play merry hell with accuracy?

    A magnet in a mouseball (which could be implemented even if tracking remained optical) or a grid of magnets embedded in the mousemat would allow electricity generation during movement rather than during accelleration? I suspect a Qi enabled mousemat might be simpler though.
    Well in watches they have mechanisms like the Seiko Kinetic which trickle charges a battery(yes,I know its probably a much lower level of power required),but even on a prototype level I am surprised its not even been tried out as a proof of concept.

    You could also seal the mouse entirely which means it could actually be used in quite adverse conditions.


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    Re: Razer Atheris premier mobile productivity mouse launched

    To the best of my knowledge the Seiko Kinetic uses a rotating bob weight just like other automatic watches. Although the weight in my day-to-day automatic isn't noticeable, I have a chronograph with a unidirectional mechanism that gives back a noticeable kick at the end of a movement. I assume this is because it has a heavier weight to make up for only harvesting energy in one direction. A wireless mouse uses a lot more power than a watch, and might therefore need a much larger weight, almost certainly enough to notice, I suspect enough to be really annoying.

    To be honest, I'm not sure I can imagine many use cases for a mouse more waterproof than this http://www.posturite.co.uk/silver-st...eel-mouse.html unless you need to put your mouse in an autoclave.
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    Re: Razer Atheris premier mobile productivity mouse launched

    I wouldn't have thought a mouse moves enough to generate energy, either in distance or in speed, unless you keep one hand on the mouse while you... errr... ahem... yeah, that.

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Well in watches they have mechanisms like the Seiko Kinetic which trickle charges a battery
    The watches work because the slightest tilt can move the mechanism. You'd need to either tilt the mouse, or keep wiggling it back and forth to do the same.
    Better to have a Logitech style scroll clutch and free-spin the wheel to charge the mouse. You'd need decent bearings and a pretty heavy scroll wheel for that, as it'd essentially be a flywheel that needs to overcome the resistance of the charging mechanism, like you have on bicycle dynamo lights.... and at some point, some idiot (like me) will want a 'DMF mouse', just because!!!

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    Re: Razer Atheris premier mobile productivity mouse launched

    Looks to me the best looking razer mouse to date but knowing the build standards it will only last 2 weeks
    batteries will still be ok tho ... so it's not all bad

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