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    AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    NVMe RAID coming this month to X399.
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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    Its a shame AMD didn't use some of the binned Ryzen chips for the Ryzen 7 1800X. They could have probably made a 4.0~4.2GHZ part instead.


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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    AMD will be bringing in bootable NVMe RAID for the X399 chipset on September 25, to be made available via a BIOS update across all compatible motherboards.

    The NVMe RAID driver will offer bootable RAID 0, 1 and 10 modes for up to ten devices, thus leveraging that inherent PCIe goodness in the chipset.
    What's the use case for a bootable array of 10 NVME drives?!

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Its a shame AMD didn't use some of the binned Ryzen chips for the Ryzen 7 1800X. They could have probably made a 4.0~4.2GHZ part instead.
    Don't forget that the 1900X is dies with half the cores disabled, and retains that 180W TDP. What we're seeing here is basically the clocks that AMD would have achieved if they'd made the 1500X a 95W part instead of a 65W part....

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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    It seems to me that the main reason anyone would get the 1900X is to have a "budget" Threadripper system for now, with a view to swapping the CPU out at a later date when their wallet recovers.
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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    What's the use case for a bootable array of 10 NVME drives?!

    1. I want it to say that I have it
    2. 2x Raid 10 with spare(s)
    3. Speed
    4. Video editing with scratch array
    5. Mad skillz

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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    Quote Originally Posted by iworrall View Post
    It seems to me that the main reason anyone would get the 1900X is to have a "budget" Threadripper system for now, with a view to swapping the CPU out at a later date when their wallet recovers.
    As I mentioned in one of the previous Threadripper threads, there are use cases for the extra memory bandwidth, as well as the comparatively huge amount of IO Threadripper enabled (up to 64 PCIe lanes, although 4 of those are taken up by the X399 chipset). They're pretty niche, but they do exist.

    The fact that AMD used the TDP to ramp up the clockspeeds means you're getting better MT performance than the 1800X anyway, so the only trade off is in lightly-threaded tasks. And if you have a workload that isn't computationally intensive but requires huge membery bandwidth or IO, then having a lower-cost entry point to the platform makes sense.

    And let's not forget, the rumour is that a lower-power non-X version of each chip will be released, which I suspect to be both clocked and priced lower. So there may yet be a $499 Threadripper chip...

    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur1814 View Post
    What's the use case for a bootable array of 10 NVME drives?!...

    2. 2x Raid 10 with spare(s)

    ...
    Surely you'd create 5 mirrored pairs then stripe across that (1+0, rather than 0+1)? Single RAID 10 array with ridiculous speed...

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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    As I mentioned in one of the previous Threadripper threads, there are use cases for the extra memory bandwidth, as well as the comparatively huge amount of IO Threadripper enabled (up to 64 PCIe lanes, although 4 of those are taken up by the X399 chipset). They're pretty niche, but they do exist.
    Yeah, I forgot about all those lovely PCIe lanes!
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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    What's the use case for a bootable array of 10 NVME drives?!
    Running purely on Optane drives? In the future there should be 64GB drives, so you could get a whopping 640GB capacity from your 10 drives! That's like, 2009 standard hard drive capacity! It might even be a little faster.

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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    Quote Originally Posted by iworrall View Post
    Yeah, I forgot about all those lovely PCIe lanes!
    It occurred to me earlier that one of the reasons AM4 Ryzens only have 24 lanes enabled (out of the 32 that are clearly baked into the silicon) might be that it's something they bin for. We generally think about dies being binned because of defective cores, but given how small the actual core clusters are on Ryzen, I reckon it's just as likely you'll get silicon defects in the non-core areas. Defect in part of the PCIe cluster? No problem! Disabled 8 PCIe lanes, and slap it in AM4

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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    so the 1900x uses two diagonal dies?

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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Surely you'd create 5 mirrored pairs then stripe across that (1+0, rather than 0+1)? Single RAID 10 array with ridiculous speed...
    Might be useful for FO4 then - it might actually load games sometime this century!!


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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    What's the use case for a bootable array of 10 NVME drives?!
    Running purely on Optane drives? In the future there should be 64GB drives, so you could get a whopping 640GB capacity from your 10 drives! That's like, 2009 standard hard drive capacity! It might even be a little faster.
    That's the Intel limitation, AMD allow any SSDs

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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    Quote Originally Posted by lumireleon View Post
    so the 1900x uses two diagonal dies?
    Yup 2 x dies and 2 x placeholders underneath that huge heatspreader
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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    Quote Originally Posted by 3dcandy View Post
    Yup 2 x dies and 2 x placeholders underneath that huge heatspreader
    It's the same physical package as epyc, I guess this offers some production savings.

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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    And let's not forget, the rumour is that a lower-power non-X version of each chip will be released, which I suspect to be both clocked and priced lower. So there may yet be a $499 Threadripper chip...
    Since the non-X version are listed in an AMD PDF document, it should only be a matter of time. Pity X399 boards are so expensive.
    https://www.amd.com/Documents/AMD-Product-Master.pdf

    Which armed with this key

    leads to something like this

    (Courtesy of Planet3DNow.de, which I already linked in Zen Chitchat post a while ago).

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    Re: AMD officially releases Ryzen Threadripper 1900X, adds features

    explain why handbrake is being used? it has not been updated to be more than 6 core aware. this is the wrong program to use for this.

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