Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 33 to 48 of 52

Thread: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

  1. #33
    Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    119
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    6 times in 5 posts

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    Yep, CPU's seem to stay relevant a lot longer these days. Still the incremental increases add up eventually.

  2. #34
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Posts
    9
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    i7 3770k not overclocked and still doing all. There is no point at the moment to upgrade at all.

  3. #35
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    32
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    Intel does not care about AMD. AMD is so far behind. Soon as AMD comes out with something new (if ZEN ever gets here) Intel will blow it away with a new chip. AMD FTL

  4. #36
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Posts
    1,061
    Thanks
    10
    Thanked
    39 times in 38 posts

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    5ghz with sub 1.4volts for £250 and £100 for an OK Z270 motherboard and I'm interested. Otherwise I'll probably stick with what I have until Zen.

  5. #37
    Registered+
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Edinburgh
    Posts
    52
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post
    • mapesdhs's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asrock P55 Deluxe
      • CPU:
      • i7 870 @ 4270MHz (203.3 x 21)
      • Memory:
      • Mushkin Blackline 4GB (2x2) DDR3/2030
      • Storage:
      • 60GB OCZ Vertex2 + 1TB SATA (Spinpoint F3)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • 2 x EVGA GTX 460 1GB FTW SLI
      • PSU:
      • Thermaltake Toughpower 1000W
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Win7/U/64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • HP 24" LP2475W
      • Internet:
      • 20Mbit

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    Data point worth noting: scaling for 5GHz (vs. the 4850 they used), the CB R15 score is only 22% higher than my 2700K @ 5GHz, and so far every 2700K I've obtained has run at 5GHz just fine on an ASUS M4E/Z (takes mere minutes to setup). Not really that much better given the amount of time that's gone by since SB. If one needs better threaded performance on the cheap, just bag a used 3930K, they cost diddly these days, though it can be a tad harder to find a suitable mbd. The last 3930K I bought cost just 87.50 (item 262699482618; BIN listings are not much more), for which I also won a top-end ASUS P9X79-E WS for 220. A few months ago I did something similar, won a 4960X for approx. 200, another P9X79-E WS for just over 200.

    Sure there's no M.2, but real world differences outside pro tasks are not that significant. 3930K at 4.8 scores 1241 for CB R15.

    I'm more interested in picking up a Zen when it's out, though I was saddened to hear that AMD has also jumped into bed with MS to restrict some chip functions to Win10 (I really thought AMD would make Win7 fully supported, that would give Intel a proper thumping).

  6. #38
    Yay a custom user title! =assassin='s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    740
    Thanks
    64
    Thanked
    47 times in 31 posts

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    Thanks for the review; I'd love to see how performance in a more demanding game would be, i.e. with an RTS game that is more CPU limited. Perhaps there are more meaningful differences there....

  7. #39
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    7,630
    Thanks
    291
    Thanked
    714 times in 617 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • M5A-97 EVO R2.0
      • CPU:
      • FX-8350
      • Memory:
      • 16GB ECC 1333
      • Storage:
      • 660GB Linux, 500GB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Nitro R9 380 4GB
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 24 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Samsung 2343BW 2048x1152
      • Internet:
      • 80Mb/20Mb VDSL

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    Quote Originally Posted by =assassin= View Post
    Thanks for the review; I'd love to see how performance in a more demanding game would be, i.e. with an RTS game that is more CPU limited. Perhaps there are more meaningful differences there....
    Civ, time it for hitting "next turn" 10 times and report the average "seconds per turn". Would need a carefully set up save game as a set starting point.

  8. #40
    Efficiency freak Queelis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Vilnius, Lithuania
    Posts
    829
    Thanks
    128
    Thanked
    78 times in 72 posts
    • Queelis's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus H81M-A
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5 4670K
      • Memory:
      • Corsair 2x4 GB 1333MHz DDR3
      • Storage:
      • Crucial MX200 250GB, Toshiba E300 3TB, WD Green 1TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850
      • PSU:
      • BeQuiet PurePower 10 600W
      • Case:
      • Antec Sonata Plus with 1 Nexus 120mm and 2 Nexus 92mm fans
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Professional
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell P2414H
      • Internet:
      • 300 mbit

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    Quote Originally Posted by danceswithunix View Post
    civ, time it for hitting "next turn" 10 times and report the average "seconds per turn". Would need a carefully set up save game as a set starting point.
    OMG, THIS. Civ VI is getting ridiculous.

  9. #41
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    5
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    as much of a disappointment the 7 series is what were we expecting there was probably only so much they could do to the existing arch. hopefully this makes it easier for zen to be good so we get competition

  10. #42
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    50
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    5 times in 3 posts

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    Quote Originally Posted by mapesdhs View Post
    I'm more interested in picking up a Zen when it's out, though I was saddened to hear that AMD has also jumped into bed with MS to restrict some chip functions to Win10 (I really thought AMD would make Win7 fully supported, that would give Intel a proper thumping).
    Why would anyone releasing a new CPU be interested in supporting an OS that went out of mainstream support almost 2 years ago? It's only on "life support" updates for another 3 years and it's gone ... like Windows 2000 ... or maybe like XP they might extend it some more since it was such a popular OS but seriously, haven't you learned anything yet about persisting with out of support OS's? It's just gonna bite you in the posterior, and with the nature of the threats out there today it's gonna bite hard.

  11. #43
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    7,630
    Thanks
    291
    Thanked
    714 times in 617 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • M5A-97 EVO R2.0
      • CPU:
      • FX-8350
      • Memory:
      • 16GB ECC 1333
      • Storage:
      • 660GB Linux, 500GB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Nitro R9 380 4GB
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 24 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Samsung 2343BW 2048x1152
      • Internet:
      • 80Mb/20Mb VDSL

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    ... but seriously, haven't you learned anything yet about persisting with out of support OS's? It's just gonna bite you in the posterior, and with the nature of the threats out there today it's gonna bite hard.
    I sort of agree, though I find Win10 bites me in the neck so it isn't like there is a good choice. I think one of my first jobs over the Christmas break is to upgrade my Windows 10 install on my little laptop to Linux. Games all require a £200 graphics card these days so there isn't any use for Windows on it anyway.

  12. #44
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    131
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    2 times in 2 posts

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    When will you start testing vid quality in handbrake (or something) with cpu vs. quicksync. Does Intel's latest have quality stuff in it that fixes the quality loss on older chips when using quicksync or do I still have to turn the gpu off? Anandtech used to test this and comment, but they quit.

  13. #45
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    34
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mapesdhs View Post
    I'm more interested in picking up a Zen when it's out, though I was saddened to hear that AMD has also jumped into bed with MS to restrict some chip functions to Win10 (I really thought AMD would make Win7 fully supported, that would give Intel a proper thumping).
    Why would anyone releasing a new CPU be interested in supporting an OS that went out of mainstream support almost 2 years ago? It's only on "life support" updates for another 3 years and it's gone ... like Windows 2000 ... or maybe like XP they might extend it some more since it was such a popular OS but seriously, haven't you learned anything yet about persisting with out of support OS's? It's just gonna bite you in the posterior, and with the nature of the threats out there today it's gonna bite hard.
    I would also add that it is not AMD who have not supported their CPUs in Windows 7, it is Microsoft. They would need to make some changes to the kernel to support the new chips and they have said that they are not going to do this for new processors from AMD nor Intel.

    So, it's not a case of AMD jumping "into bed" with Intel, as mapesdhs says. I agree with you that it makes no sense to make these changes to an OS that is 2 generations old - even if there is an awful lot of Win 7 still in the corporate environment.

  14. #46
    Efficiency freak Queelis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Vilnius, Lithuania
    Posts
    829
    Thanks
    128
    Thanked
    78 times in 72 posts
    • Queelis's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus H81M-A
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5 4670K
      • Memory:
      • Corsair 2x4 GB 1333MHz DDR3
      • Storage:
      • Crucial MX200 250GB, Toshiba E300 3TB, WD Green 1TB
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850
      • PSU:
      • BeQuiet PurePower 10 600W
      • Case:
      • Antec Sonata Plus with 1 Nexus 120mm and 2 Nexus 92mm fans
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Professional
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell P2414H
      • Internet:
      • 300 mbit

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    Well, that definitely was not worth waiting for..

  15. #47
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Posts
    51
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked
    7 times in 6 posts

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    I just had a good laugh when I saw the price of the 7700k...

    £350 for a quad core processor which is less than 50% faster than a i7 2700k from 6 YEARS AGO.

  16. #48
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    West Sussex
    Posts
    920
    Thanks
    47
    Thanked
    114 times in 108 posts
    • kompukare's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z77-V LX
      • CPU:
      • Intel i5-3570K
      • Memory:
      • 2 x 8GB Crucial Ballistix Elite PC3-14900
      • Storage:
      • Crucial MX200 | Sandisk Extreme 120GB SSD | WDC 1TB Green | Samsung 1Tb Spinpoint
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire R9 290 VaporX 7950
      • PSU:
      • Antec 650 Gold TruePower (Seasonic) or Seasonic SII-330
      • Case:
      • Aerocool DS 200 (silenced, 53.6 litres)l)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10-64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 x Dell P2414H

    Re: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake

    Quote Originally Posted by imadaily View Post
    £350 for a quad core processor which is less than 50% faster than a i7 2700k from 6 YEARS AGO.
    I think +50% is being very generous.
    The review sites have been very easy on Intel and few have compared Kaby to Sandy at the same frequency.
    Did find DigitalFoundry/Eurogamer who compared the KB, SK and SB i5-K at 4.2GHz:
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...5-7600k-review
    Average of their gaming is +34% vs Sandy Bridge:

    The non-gaming average is higher, but some (most) of those benefit from new instructions.
    Max overclock has gone up with Kaby Lake vs Skylake (and Broadwell + Haswell), but just gets us back up to what Sandy Bridge managed.
    Of course, for someone buying new now Kaby Lake is good.
    But for anyone who already has Sandy Bridge or later there is little point even if the new platform has plenty of new features.
    No wonder desktop is dying. Years ago I never upgraded unless I could ~x2 the performance for a similar cost. That era is long over.

Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •