The recent Computerbase 4K review showed not only that at that res most CPUs are very close but that often Ryzen has better min FPS even compared to the 6850K@4.3GHz (all the other CPUs were stock).
https://www.computerbase.de/2017-06/...iele_im_detail
But,but....MOAR MHZ!!Originally Posted by kompukare
Impressive performance, but as others have said, the price/performance ratio does not come close to Ryzen, especially for gaming, which is what I think the majority of users here want a high end rig for. Compared to an OC 1700 setup, a giant chunk of extra $$$ for the Intel platform is only getting a few extra fps.
It looks like the thermal interface between the die and IHS is truly woeful: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/intel-...-33922-11.html
Interestingly they've done the sort of measurements comparing die and IHS temps I was talking about in my fan profile thread - it shows how bad the problem really is, and just throwing MOAR COOLING at it solves nothing. The die should be soldered, simple as that - I wonder what will happen with the higher core count versions?
But like others have said, I'm patiently waiting for the 'hot and power hungry' pitchfork crowd to appear... nope? Funny that...
Last time AMD made a CPU that needed a water cooler they included it in the box
You mean the (IMO) dreadful FX-9000 series? Basically, just drive PD's voltage and clocks through the roof and pretend it's something new.
The thing is you also need to delid the Core i7 7900X too meaning you invalidate your warranty.
My point is the FX 9000 series were just a strange version of an existing CPU. With Skylake-X it seems you don't have any choice.
I know this i9 is meant to be a productivity chip first and foremost, but even the i3-7350k beats it on Total War? A little embarrassing for Intel.
That's pretty obviously a driver or game optimisation issue. More embarrassing for the game studio tbh, since it indicates that they're doing some odd optimisation shenanigans if it's tripping over a Skylake based processor. Note that the other games put it exactly where it should be...
The Hand (24-06-2017)
I think Skylake-X is demonstrating exactly what people were explaining on Ryzen's release - due to Ryzen's substantially similar performance but architectural differences, performance could be a bit strange depending on the application/game. Intel have kept the cache hierarchy pretty much the same since at least Sandy Bridge which has made it a bit of an optimisation target, so when something like Ryzen comes along it's pretty much expected that this sort of thing will happen. It happened with Nehalem too; after devs got used to the large L2 of Core 2, game performance was often much lower for Nehalem.
But, of course being an AMD product, it must be AMD's fault! But exactly as expected, the cache shake-up and moving from a ring bus to a mesh (likely for very similar scalability reasons which led AMD to use clusters and a crossbar for Ryzen) has led to much of the same 'weirdness' in Skylake-X. It's a very high performance processor, but if some binaries have been very tightly tuned to a specific architecture, you have to expect this sort of thing to happen.
Nice one. I will sell my house and buy one
I still can't figure out for what market this is!
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