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    AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200

    Whilst these can be characterised as "R7s with bits turned off" there's no way that AMD would be throwing away money by doing that.

    Almost all of these are lower-binned dies off the wafer with various flaws.
    AMD could throw them away or they could recover some value by disabling the sections with faults and selling them off as lower-spec CPUs until they get their yields up (at which point you can expect to see supply of the lower-spec processors dry up at the same time as higher spec ones come down in price)

    In the meantime, we have an opportunity to grab nice CPUs for a low figure. The sheer number of PCIe lanes is useful for many applications that don't require high CPU power and whilst the lack of IGP might be annoying to some, it's not really a big deal when you can buy a card cheaply for the job at hand - in many cases all that's actually needed is a text console anyway.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200

    These really are quite low binned, I have my 1600 at 3.7mhz on 1.3v.
    I'm curious to see how these compare to phenoms and the fx 6300 or how they will compare to a single ccx apu.

    Interestingly, I just looked on Scan and the 7350k is at £100

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200

    Pi fast is none issue for me, what I am after is Cinebench

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200



    Err, did the R5 1400 and R3 1300X labels get swapped?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamz4 View Post
    These really are quite low binned, I have my 1600 at 3.7mhz on 1.3v.
    I'm curious to see how these compare to phenoms and the fx 6300 or how they will compare to a single ccx apu.

    Interestingly, I just looked on Scan and the 7350k is at £100
    That's surprisingly cheap, and it makes the 7300 completely pointless - the ~£35 price difference more than makes up for the lack of a cooler. The 7100's sole purpose is to be £10 cheaper than the 7350K!

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200

    Even better deal at Scan for the 7350K, even if the MB bundled is over kill for this CPU:

    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-rog-maximus-viii-hero-z170-atx-motherboard-plus-intel-core-i3-7350k-unlocked-dual-core-kaby-lak

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200

    Quote Originally Posted by Airwave View Post
    Even better deal at Scan for the 7350K, even if the MB bundled is over kill for this CPU:

    https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus...-core-kaby-lak
    Its about the going rate -the cheapest Z270 motherboards are around £100,so that is £200 plus the cooler. Whereas I can appreciate an overclocked Core i3 7350k would be pretty decent for certain games,that is approaching the sort of money where you can get a Ryzen 5 1400 and a B350 motherboard for,and since Intel charges silly money for their Core i7 7700K,its not a particularly attractive upgrade path still if you look at price/performance sadly.


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    Re: AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200

    Lack of IGP may hurt target market
    I think that only really matters for laptops.

    Even then, I was cursing an i5 M580 based laptop over the weekend because the latest graphics drivers were lacking some feature required by the software (slic3r Prusa Edition) I was trying to use, so I had to switch laptops. Time to get a small desktop in the garage I think. Yes I know the laptop is now 5 years old, but for a business class laptop that shouldn't be an issue for driver support. Annoyingly I suspect it would have worked in Linux where the OpenGL feature level on Intel graphics leads the Windows 10 driver. Integrated graphics sucks, Intel's drivers suck, some things never change.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200

    i think we need better benchmark programs. instead of handbrake, use DVDfab. get rid of pifast, cause its written for intel chips, 3dmark firestrike has not been patched for AMD ryzen.

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    Re: AMD Ryzen 3 1300X and Ryzen 3 1200

    Quote Originally Posted by elites2012 View Post
    i think we need better benchmark programs. instead of handbrake, use DVDfab. get rid of pifast, cause its written for intel chips, 3dmark firestrike has not been patched for AMD ryzen.
    Perhaps the other way around, it could be that Intel have made sure their chips are really good at pifast. AMD have lead in pifast in the past, it is a very old benchmark:



    More to the point, I have never bought a computer to run pifast, and I can't imagine anyone else has. It is an utterly pointless benchmark. Something like a database benchmark would at least exercise a decent amount of the system.

    Plenty of us actually use handbrake, so I like that one.

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