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    Old 09-01-2004, 02:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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    Good Value IL-2 Hardware :)

    Right.....Big AL for one is now considering upgrade PURELY cos of IL-2.

    Luke is mid way through.....

    So its advice time, and AWAY from Hardware forum cos it gets complex in there.

    My suggestions are as follows......

    AMD....nforce mobo with proper nvidia Soundstorm sound built in (5.1 EAX etc) for value and also network card built in too.

    A processor along the lines of a 1800XP Thoroughbred is fine and dandy....it'll overlclock if you need it too, but for IL-2 its not essential.
    With a few more quid and for better apps on other stuff (like MP3 etc) a Barton 2500 is good as gold and cooler.

    2 sticks of mem to use the twin channel advances of nForce2.....you must have them in the 2 end slots. MINIMUM 512 mb of mem....and if you aint an overlcocker (and for this game you dont need to be) get MORE memory at PC2700 speeds rather than less at PC4000or over. Bandwidth is GOOD but not essential.....I have now got 1 gig of PC2700 instead on 512 of PC3500. Forget clock speeds at this altitude of PC...get more ram. Crucial ram ROCKS...and its delivered to the door.

    Graphics......forget 9600 XT......9600 Pro is fine....but a 9700/9800 Pro would be good

    Asus mobo is good (i have one) BUT Abit NF7 is highest regarded.

    If I had to budget then MORE RAM, less processor......best card I could get WITHOUT falling for marketing hype on XT badges.....so a Pro Radeon.

    AND WITHOUT DOUBLT THE MOST ESSENTIAL THING EVER......BESTINVESTMENT IN THE WORLD....A GOOD POWER SUPPLY....

    Antec Trupower 430....big dough......BUT WORTH DOWNGRADING EVERYTHING ELSE BY ONE NOPTCH TO AFFORD IT....you do NOT wanna have a system crash in VEF.

    Keep me posted for advice....and AGENT is a top bloke in Hardware.....to be trusted

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    I've got a 30" monitor which keeps my room nice and warm, it's better than a radiator. Gives you a good tan as well
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    Old 09-01-2004, 02:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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    Or if you are lucky like me a nice TFT to look at the goodness on

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    Old 09-01-2004, 03:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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    yeah yeah........and me..but I've not seen yours yet

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    I've got a 30" monitor which keeps my room nice and warm, it's better than a radiator. Gives you a good tan as well
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    Old 09-01-2004, 03:03 PM   #4 (permalink)
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    might be worth looking at cwt for the psu as they're basically rebranded antec's and a damn site cheaper if your on a budget


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    Old 09-01-2004, 03:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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    id say a radeon 9600XT would be better than a pro ,not much more expensive and u get better performance and good overclockability
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    Old 09-01-2004, 03:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by Zak33
    Right.....Big AL for one is now considering upgrade PURELY cos of IL-2.
    And LOMAC once I get the hardware good enough to play it!

    So Abit NF7 v2.0, 2x512MB PC3200 TwinMOS, Barton XP2500+ and Sapphire 9800 PRO sound good then?

    Won't be on a budget if I can get credit Knoxy! If I can't get it, then I'll have to wait a few months for this little lot.

    If cars had followed the same developmental path as computers, a Rolls Royce would cost £60, get a million miles per gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside.
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    Unless yer OCing cpu which you cant coz its locked just get pc2700
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    Old 09-01-2004, 03:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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    you can still oc it just stuck at the standard multi which is iirc 11.5, most 2500's should run 200 * 11.5 no problem.


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    Old 09-01-2004, 03:34 PM   #9 (permalink)
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    Oh, I was kinda hoping to run it at 200MHZ along with the RAM... What CPU can I run at 200MHz then? Someone had a XP1900 (I think) in the for sale forum which they said ran at 200MHz so I may look into buying one of them then...

    If cars had followed the same developmental path as computers, a Rolls Royce would cost £60, get a million miles per gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside.
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    you can still oc it just stuck at the standard multi which is iirc 11.5, most 2500's should run 200 * 11.5 no problem.
    That would do me fine, I wouldn't want to massively overclock it anyway.

    If cars had followed the same developmental path as computers, a Rolls Royce would cost £60, get a million miles per gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside.
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    Go for it then
    remember crucial rad pro is 218 (with web code) plus lifetime warranty if you dont mod it

    Or clock it but really how could the tell
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    Go for it then
    remember crucial rad pro is 218 (with web code) plus lifetime warranty if you dont mod it

    Or clock it but really how could the tell
    Is that directly ordered from them or something then? Are they as good as Kingston, Corsair and TwinMOS? Or is there very little between the lot?

    If cars had followed the same developmental path as computers, a Rolls Royce would cost £60, get a million miles per gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside.
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    Well if you aint bought from them then order memory and gfx from them and use this code to get 5% off order

    they also do free delivery

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    Hmm, I'll have a look. But I was looking to get all my stuff from scan or savastore as they offer credit. Unless of course I save up for a few months first.

    If cars had followed the same developmental path as computers, a Rolls Royce would cost £60, get a million miles per gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside.
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    If you intend to play LOMAC online then don't go the way of nForce since there's huge lag/warping issues. It's better with the latest patch but still happens.

    Something to think about..

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    Are the lag warping issues occuring on AMD64 rigs at all ?
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