Got some stick?

[Nick]

A thread all about joysticks.

I have a Saitek X45 throttle and stick combo. Its got enough buttons to make even a real F-22 pilot develop a stammer. This stick has over 150 different possible button combinations, meaning you'll never have to touch the keyboard again.
I currently have mine set up for dogfighting, but with a flick of the mode switch I can pilot a four engined bomber, and another flick lets me man and adjust the bombsight, all of which need a whole load of keys on top of the normal piloting ones.
Its a well built combo with a pretty stiff spring on the stick, fine for ham fisted jittery pilots like me. Its USB and the programing is simple point and click, though I have heard of people having problems getting it to install. You have to follow the instructions TO THE LETTER!
All in all its a damn fine stick, though it lacks FFB, but that doesn't really bother me.

[Nick]

Knox's Saitek Cyborg 3d Platinum Review

TWIST axis
10 buttons
8-way hat switch
Lever throttle
Shift function
Full programmability via SGE
Totally adjustable for left- and right-handers
Single-spring mechanism

Brilliant stick, when i took it out of the box i looked at it and went "wtf is that" 10 minutes of adjustments later and it was PERFECT fitted my hand beautifully.

Its obscenely adjustable, quite responsive in il-2 and fb, my only problem is with the throttle, the last 1% you have to push for for some reason, may just be my stick.

Nice customisable buttons and enough for what i wanted from it padlock enemy, gear , boost wep and the all important bail out.

Its lack of force feedback may be an issue for some, but i find it better as ffb can be distracting in some games imo. Its also quite durable, its been in several meeting with the floor and works perfectly afterwards (i don't advise testing this feature though )

In conclusion lovely stick, would reccomend to anyone who doesn't want force feedback and is on a bit of a budget. the best and only £29.99 i've ever spent in p.c world .

[Stoo]

Just got the Cyborg 3D Gold, and it seems to be a minor update of the platinum, well, a golden stick rather than a silvery one..

My question.. what works best config-wise for IL2? Oh, and what the heck do you use the hat for?

[[GSV]Trig]

Personally I use the hat to look around, not sure theres a lot else you could use it for tbh..

[Stoo]

Oh, and anyone with a cyborg 3d, how the hell do you trim it? I've calibrated it etc, but I've still got a slight roll and a bit of climb when the stick is centered, any ideas?

[[GSV]Trig]

U need to adjust the trim on the plane your flying...

[Russ]

Originally posted by Stoo
Oh, and anyone with a cyborg 3d, how the hell do you trim it? I've calibrated it etc, but I've still got a slight roll and a bit of climb when the stick is centered, any ideas?

you will pitch upwards slightly cos your gaining speed, therefor pushing the air faster over the wings generating lift, and the roll to thr right is cuased by the direction the engine spins, so you need to set a key for it, and trim them ingame

[Stoo]

Ta peeps, I didn't realise that there was a trim function in the game itself, hence the puzzlement when I couldn't find any adjusters on the stick itself

/me slaps himself with a nice big RTFM

[Nick]

You dont need to set keys fro trim Stoo, its already defaulted to ctrl+arrow keys for pitch and roll and ctrl + z or x for rudder.

[Stoo]

ooooh, ta Deck

[Tumble]

I've actually setup the trim controls so I don't have to press shift or ctrl to activate it - just plain old up/down left/right and z or x for rudder, unless I'm setting neutral trim in which case I'll hold shift down. I'm trying to make the necessary keypresses that are used a lot as simple as possible - all my engine select controls are on the F keys, cos I hardly use any other veiws than F2 or F1. Still trying to optimaise it tho - one key - one function all that jazz.

[Zak33]

just so you all know what I use.....cos it MIGHT help....might

Page upand Page down for Prop Pitch upand down
Home and End for Supercharger up and down
Insert and Delete for Mixture up and down

Then a sticky label under it to remind me

Cos there are TOO many weapons I use the Bomb or Torpedo as Cntrl and Space bar together....easy to find BUT impossible to do by accident

And just plain old Space bar alone for Landing Lights on/off so Trigster can find me quicker

[[GSV]Trig]

I think you just like flashin at me tbh Zak

[Private Pyle]

Originally posted by Stoo
Oh, and anyone with a cyborg 3d, how the hell do you trim it? I've calibrated it etc, but I've still got a slight roll and a bit of climb when the stick is centered, any ideas?

Torque from a spinning prop causes a gryoscopic effect causing roll too the right (i think). Same theory applies too most things that spin, ie on motorbikes, the heavier the wheels on bike the less easy the bike will turn.

Back too subject my joystick is a good old Sidewinder Precision 2, I've had it two years since I got my 1st home pc and bought B17 - The mighty 8th.

Anyone recommend a good force feed back joystick? Preferably with decent throttle control.

[wedge22]

Hi guys i am new to il-2 as i only got it yesterday and patched it up to 1.2, but when flying my plane seems to roll to the left any ideas why,could it be the trim?

[Skii]

Originally posted by wedge22
Hi guys i am new to il-2 as i only got it yesterday and patched it up to 1.2, but when flying my plane seems to roll to the left any ideas why,could it be the trim?

Thats perfectly normal - its called propellor torque and affects some single engined planes more than others - as you propellor rotates in one direction, you will rotate in the other - simple physics really.

aircraft with 2 or more engines don't suffer from this as multiple engines cancel each other out.