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    Old 10-01-2007, 10:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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    any easy kills on IL-2?

    I've just bought IL-2 Sturmkovic, as i really need to catch up on my combat sims, so i was just wondering if there were any computer controlled planes that you can sneak up behind, shoot the hell out of without getting shot at. its how i got good on original MS CFS, shooting c47 cargo planes .

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    Old 10-01-2007, 10:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
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    You can set up AI planes but they shoot back, actually iirc you can set up friendly AI planes they might be less inclined to have a pop back.


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    Old 10-01-2007, 11:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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    Or set up enemy aircraft (bombers etc) with empty payloads - their defensive guns will have no ammo in them either


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    Old 10-01-2007, 11:02 PM   #4 (permalink)
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    ah...ok, ill have fun shooting down some B25s tonight

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    The type I practice and mess around on is the HE-111Z Zwilling 2 bombers in 1... just dont go for the middle engine unless your using big cannons.


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    Old 23-01-2007, 10:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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    thanks for that
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    Old 02-02-2007, 12:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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    Hi Nick

    Sorry im late to the thread, got a few tips for you, if you havent worked them out already

    1. The worst possible place to shot another plane is from behind. Why? Because it presents the smallest target

    Plane from behind is

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    2. IL2 is a combat sim therefore it simulates the actions of movement and gravity. You are shooting bullets from a moving gun platform at a moving target and those bullets with be effected by gravitational drop

    3. To combat the above practise deflection shooting, aim ahead and slightly above target, ideally so the target flies into the bullet storm.

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    Old 02-02-2007, 01:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
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    what he said, and make it fast passes.

    Actually.......the best at this was Knoxxy who has an amazing inbuilt gyroscope, cos having watched him, he is not a nice man to have shooting at your bomber

    Try some different planes youself too, and come up underneath occassionally and aim at wing roots. A Hurricane Mk2 C is a 4x20 mm canon monster, but a Hurrican Mk2 B has 12 .303 machine guns, and god as they sound, the 4 canons does it for me,

    Try the uber Yak 9 K which has a single 45 mm canon firing through through the propellor hub, and whilst the recoil is horrific the damage is amazing

    then try a fast drop and gentle pull out with a FW 190 A9.....this has so much hitting power, and is so fast that the convergance for your guns has to be right out at 400 or 500 metres, cos ytou'll close on the raget so fast you'll be past in a second.

    And lastly.....and for the most fun....try an I-153 with Rockets under the wings,

    Set the rockets to explode at 5 seconds even if they dont hit anything, then creep up on the bombers from where ever is safe (very low behind?) AND let then ave a few well positioned, very far in front shots.

    If you get the rockets to explode NEAR the bomber it WILL die

    Lastly......do the honourable thing, grab an IL-2 3M and slowly close from nehind and then let it have both 37 mm canons AND whatever else you're carrying...including geoing over head with AJ-2 cassettes and littering the little monsters on top of the bomber

    There is NO game as good or as hard as this


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    Damn it, it makes me want to take to the air again! The you would have an easy kill!

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    Try the uber Yak 9 K which has a single 45 mm canon firing through through the propellor hub, and whilst the recoil is horrific the damage is amazing
    my one and only kill in IL-2 was a pilot kill on zak from about a mile away



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    Old 03-02-2007, 12:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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    good advice there

    i also tried what Dakaras's signature says...i collided with a bomber and died...WON'T be doing that again
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    Just keep on trying, Dak knows what he is on about!

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    Originally Posted by Nick Smith View Post
    i also tried what Dakaras's signature says...i collided with a bomber and died...
    Hehe and you wont be the last

    As another tip set up with icons on so you can fire at your set convergence......With most combat situations dont even bother opening fire any further out that 250m...Personally I set convergence to 150 to 200m depending on plane and usually dont worry about firing till Im within 200m, youll be suprised at how close that seems

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    Old 05-02-2007, 10:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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    thanks for that, may give it a go,

    also...whats the best way to attack and then fly off? im usually ending up flyign behind a bomber, and letting rip with my cannons, then getting shot down by the rear gunner, or seriosuly wounded or similar...

    any tips?
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    No kill is an easy kill - you have to earn them all, and work hard for it. The guys have summed it up pretty much, though get in the P-39, learn how to turn without stalling and love the plain porn that is the nose cannon.

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    Re best way to attack bombers

    Boom and Zoom baby or head on if youve got the balls

    In an online coop situation when youve been scrambled and have had to claw height then often coming at them from behind is the only way but if you can get a 1000m + height advantage then dive in on them aiming just ahead and rake the plane top nose to tail, then pull back up using the speed of the dive to regain your energy advantage and go again.

    IF you can line them up for a head on then aim at cockpit start firing at 600m and pull up and over at last second, break right or left immediatly to put off top gunner, as I said take balls and timing but chuff me its fun

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