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    Ok to run a bathroom light without the cover on it?

    Hey guys. I had to order a new light bulb for the bathroom. It was a 'Phillips PL-Q'. When I ordered a new one, I had no idea they came in different sizes. I can't even figure out how to tell what size bulb I'd be buying when it comes to these (if anyone knows - please tell me!!). So, the bulb that got delivered to me was too big. But, desperate to have a light in the bathroom again, I decided to fit the bulb anyway. It seems to work just fine. But, it's to big to be able to fit the shield/cover back on around the light. I have attached a picture so that you can see what I mean. So, I'm just wondering whether you guys think it's ok to run it like this? I'm a bit concerned about the socket being exposed because of moisture n all! What you reckon?

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    Re: Ok to run a bathroom light without the cover on it?

    No, it isn't.

    The humid atmosphere in a bathroom will tend to corrode the contacts.

    If it gets splashed, there is a risk of shorting out the contacts.

    The lamp is exposed so it is at risk of physical damage

    It is a higher power than the smaller 2D lamp fittings, and there is a risk of overloading the ballast, leading to heat build up, or premature failure.

    So, no, it isn't OK, get the correct lamp and refit the cover.
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    Re: Ok to run a bathroom light without the cover on it?

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    No, it isn't.

    The humid atmosphere in a bathroom will tend to corrode the contacts.

    If it gets splashed, there is a risk of shorting out the contacts.

    The lamp is exposed so it is at risk of physical damage

    It is a higher power than the smaller 2D lamp fittings, and there is a risk of overloading the ballast, leading to heat build up, or premature failure.

    So, no, it isn't OK, get the correct lamp and refit the cover.
    Ok. So the lower power bulbs are the smaller ones? Do you know if there's another way to tell? This one is 28W. The last one was 16W, but it was a bit too dim/took way too long to get to a bright enough level. But, if I have to get another 16W bulb, then I will. Thanks.

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    Re: Ok to run a bathroom light without the cover on it?

    Yes, larger lamps, higher power.

    But yes, either the proper size light for the fitting, or by a fitting that will take that size lamp, if you want it to be brighter, but make sure the fitting is suitable for bathrooms.

    The other option would be to fit LED down lighters, again I get fittings that are suitable for bathrooms, which will tend to be low voltage. So if your bathroom is upstairs, you could put the transformer in the attic, and run low voltage wiring to down lighters in the ceiling.

    This gives guidance on choosing bathroom light fittings

    http://www.photonstarlighting.co.uk/...65+Ratings.pdf
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    Re: Ok to run a bathroom light without the cover on it?

    Peterb makes a good point that it does need sorting, however in the short term whilst you're getting a new lamp personally I'd use it.

    My opinion would be that you're less likely to be injured by the unlikely event of a short than break your head open on the toilet when you trip up.

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    Re: Ok to run a bathroom light without the cover on it?

    I do have a lamp currently running like that. Just think that it is your neck on the line, and do you feel comfortable with the lamp like that? I do in my case, though it will probably be fixed tomorrow evening anyway.

    In our main bathroom it would scare the heck out of me. It would take a fairly bizarre accident to get water on the bulb, but it just feels too close to the shower for comfort and it gets a bit steamed up in there sometimes.

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    Re: Ok to run a bathroom light without the cover on it?

    Thanks very much guys. I appreciate the replies I spoke to the place I got it from earlier. They said they have a 16W bulb which is smaller. So I guess peterb is right about these. I just sent the thing back for a replacement. Back to keeping the bathroom door open with a lamp pointing in there again lol....

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    Re: Ok to run a bathroom light without the cover on it?

    No probs! As DirectHex says, ultimately the risk is yours, but it is a risk you don't need to take - and not one that I could or would advise you to take.

    Glad the supplier is so helpful too! Result!
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    Re: Ok to run a bathroom light without the cover on it?

    I shall explain exactly why a bathroom lamp needs a cover.

    Towels and splashes

    if you happen to whip your towel around you, while drying your hair/body.. you just don't need it snagging on the exposed bulb

    and IF you got a stray splash of water on a hot bulb it WILL pop and you WILL be showered with fine glass and it WILL be dark.. and you WILL step on it and you WILL bleed everywhere and you WILL trash the hall carpet hobbling to the next room.


    Have I whipped a bulb with a towel while swinging the towel around myself? Yes...

    have I stood on shatterd bulb glass..? yes


    did I bleed a lot... tremendous amounts

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    Re: Ok to run a bathroom light without the cover on it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    I shall explain exactly why a bathroom lamp needs a cover.

    Towels and splashes

    if you happen to whip your towel around you, while drying your hair/body.. you just don't need it snagging on the exposed bulb

    and IF you got a stray splash of water on a hot bulb it WILL pop and you WILL be showered with fine glass and it WILL be dark.. and you WILL step on it and you WILL bleed everywhere and you WILL trash the hall carpet hobbling to the next room.


    Have I whipped a bulb with a towel while swinging the towel around myself? Yes...

    have I stood on shatterd bulb glass..? yes


    did I bleed a lot... tremendous amounts
    That's a funny, yet savage story! That sucks for you! But, you painted a scene that I don't want to live out, so thanks

    I was more just concerned about the dampness in the air really. But I shall definitely remember your story next time I consider something like this!

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