OSX on sub notebook (MSI wind)

[keef247]

lol "custom install discs" lol yeah their legal hahaha

[Flibb]

lol "custom install discs" lol yeah their legal hahaha

well slipstreaming windows is legal, and nlite is still around

[aidanjt]

Indeed, the license is what matters.

[keef247]

i suggest you double check that... apple doesn't seem to play ball that way.
might be wrong but either way "custom install" means a hacked x86 port to a non mac so i was right and that certainly is NOT legal.as its not a mac and its violating the agreement by tampering with the distro for your own gains. it isnt a linux license after all

[Stoo]

Illegal, unlawful, or just contrary to the EULA?

[aidanjt]

Illegal, unlawful, or just contrary to the EULA?

Just contrary to the EULA. And of that, is only the act of installing the 'custom install' disc on generic 'x86' which is contrary to the EULA.

[keef247]

running mac osx on any hardware that isn't a proper mac i.e. not a "hackintosh" is majorly illegal and breaks the EULA i would mention a site for reference to see this but I'm sure some googling with hackintosh would bring this up.
as i've seen people install it and have had a read of the terms and conditions and the hackers that have tweaked it to work on x86/x64 mention that you should always be reminded that this is intended as a test/proof that this is possible and that it breaks the EULA and is illegal yada yada and if you want to use the software you should purchase a mac "or atleast a official version of osx" (which is still breaking the EULA lol)
but yeah have a google if I'm allowed to say that if not hands up sorry delete this.

[aidanjt]

running mac osx on any hardware that isn't a proper mac i.e. not a "hackintosh" is majorly illegal and breaks the EULA

Illegal under which British law exactly?.. The legality may be questionable under the US DCMA, but the US is a special case.

[keef247]

hmmm i never thought about that can someone shine some light on this? if its allowed then apple would get owned considering you can lookup the compatible parts and build something way higher spec for the price of something lower spec.but macs do nothing for me.only things i'd use it for would be things i already run on windows i.e. premiere and photoshop. i know they have a nice video editing suite but premiere is far superior obviously.and plus if i wanted to sway that way i'd go back to bunty.

[keef247]

to qoute

However, Apple's licence agreement does state that Mac OS X should only be installed on Apple hardware, so this is a controversial subject. The versions available for download that we discuss in this article are unauthorised. You might feel morally justified in using one of these after you've bought a legitimate copy of Mac OS X Leopard, but you will still be breaking copyright law.

http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/software/...9415279,00.htm

I'm very surprised a mod hasn't locked this tbf

[Agent]

The original post was asking if it was legal, not asking for download locations. We have never had issues with people discussing things like this as 99.9% of people on this forum won't get steping over the line

[aidanjt]

In fact there are two "Fair dealing" exceptions in Copyright law, for purposes of non-commerical research, or for purposes of criticism or review of copyright material, it could be argued that under both these exceptions, a hackentosh install could be on the level, regardless of licence agreement terms. In truth, this issue is so complex, that even a team of lawyers would be puzzled over the legality of the issue, it really just needs to be tried in court, levied against an individual to be ruled illegal.

[keef247]

lets face facts though the Thread Starter isn't intending on buying the wind to "experiment" and do "research" fair enough if he didn't know it was illegal.
so yeah....

I also highly doubt someone would buy a legal licensed copy of OSX and then modify it in a mac (which you apparently need but there probably is windows patching options but there didn't used to be... fair enough if there is) and then buy a rig/built pc/laptop to "test" and do "research" on it if it was their new machine... the same as you wouldn't buy a 360 if you didn't already own one to try developing... well not average people on it.

i'd imagine a handful or so fair enough but generally we buy stuff to use not to experiment for others benefits because lets face it even if the "experiments" work it still will be illegal to use non-experimentally...

so it's completely pointless if your not stepping the pirated line.

[aidanjt]

OS X is purchasable without a new computer. And is modifiable with other operating systems.

[Flibb]

The thread starter isn't intending to buy the wind for anything, he already owns one and is contemplating dual booting it with OSX. He has been interested in getting a mac at some point and this could be an extremely cheap way of getting a portable mac. Initial outlay for the wind / advent £250 + £15 RAM upgrade + £60 for leopard (USA). You will also notice that I removed the link to the wind forums (that didnt itself link to any downloads) to be on the safe side.

Did a bit of googling on the EULA, found this mentioned in quie ta few places

The legality of the hybrid Hackintosh is a curious thing. Apple hasn't set their lawyers onto anyone (at least, not that we've heard of). Indeed, the licence for OS X itself is a bit vague and open to interpretation, specifically the note that "this license allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labelled computer at a time".

Not a computer made by Apple, but an ‘Apple-labelled' computer - a computer bearing a label that says ‘Apple'. This could arguably be considered to include an Apple sticker or even a Dymo label bearing the word ‘Apple'!


Soooo wheres that marker pen

[peterb]

Except that marking a computer not made by Apple as if it was would be counterfeiting.