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    Hi,

    I recently purchased a Lenovo TS140 that came with 4GB ram and have now reached the stage it needs upgraded.

    I was looking at an 8GB Crucial (scan code LN61549) however have read some conflicting stories online regarding wether this would be suitable.

    Does anyone have a TS140 that has used Crucial RAM? My only other question is if it will work with the existing 4GB ok - was Hynx branded (HMT451U7AFR8A-PB)

    Thanks!

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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    £46.50 for that module is not the cheapest. What does Scan T&C says about 'unwanted' purchases. Unwanted = buy it & try it.

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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonebreaker777 View Post
    £46.50 for that module is not the cheapest. What does Scan T&C says about 'unwanted' purchases. Unwanted = buy it & try it.
    Do you know anywhere else that I could find cheaper? (or even a silimar module cheaper). Scan was the cheapest I could find by a couple of £.

    Not sure about Scan's returns, Amazon had it for a few quid more and know they are good for returns so could always try that.

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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    Edit: Just noticed the TS140 is actually a server. The reason you are seeing those prices is due to the RAM being ECC.

    You might find non-ECC works (Do you have a DIMM from a workstation to try?) but you cannot mix ECC and non-ECC. There is also 2 types of ECC, although I beleive the cheap servers only use the unbuffered ECC (and normally accept desktop non-ECC RAM), as opposed to the registered ECC in the higher-end servers.
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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    I would go to Lenovo TS140 page and look at the list of supported memory. Most ECC will probably work fine, but you could have some compatibility problems that go noticed until it's too late. I guess it depends on what you're doing though.

    Registered memory is just the same as ECC but but the commands aren't sent straight to the memory controller but to the memory registry. You only use registered memory if you need a lots of the stuff as it's slower but puts less strain on the memory controller. You do need support from the chipset and CPU to run registered memory.
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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    Per the Lenovo product page the TS140 uses UDIMMs - i.e. unbuffered RAM, so "normal " memory will work, and you can mix ECC and non-ECC DIMMs, you just won't get any of the ECC features to work.

    Your best option will depend on exactly what you're using that server for.

    If it's anything business critical or important enough that you can't afford to risk any errors, you'll want to source some unbuffered ECC memory; ideally a properly supported Lenovo upgrade kit.

    If you're just playing around with it, you're using it as a standard desktop, or you're running a home file server that's regularly backed up and you can cope with losing a couple of day's data if anything goes wrong, I'd be tempted to just buy the cheapest 8GB or 16GB RAM kit I could find and sell the 4GB ECC Hynix on the 'bay to make some of the money back.

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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Per the Lenovo product page the TS140 uses UDIMMs - i.e. unbuffered RAM, so "normal " memory will work, and you can mix ECC and non-ECC DIMMs, you just won't get any of the ECC features to work.
    I have tried that on many boards and have only ever been presented with blank screens and/or beeping......I would be very cautious about relying on it working.
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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    Oh, fair enough. Maybe I'm getting confused - I thought I'd mixed ECC and non-ECC DIMMs on an ASUS board I used to have, but I could be mis-remembering!

    Certainly it's always safer to avoid mixing different types of RAM where possible

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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Oh, fair enough. Maybe I'm getting confused - I thought I'd mixed ECC and non-ECC DIMMs on an ASUS board I used to have, but I could be mis-remembering!

    Certainly it's always safer to avoid mixing different types of RAM where possible
    I have done it, but it can be iffy. It depends if the types are close enough to each others specs. You can usually make them work in the BIOS if you have the options.

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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    Thanks everyone, will try and get some non ecc ram to test and see how it goes. Only being used at home so nothing too critical

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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    Are you just using it as a desk top? If so, yeah just grab some of that yellow low latency Crucial stuff, it's great.

    If you are using for file server or with software RAID and have a decent amount of data then ECC is the way to.

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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    These are the modules I use in mine:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008EM9GV...767431_TE_dp_2

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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    Are you just using it as a desk top? If so, yeah just grab some of that yellow low latency Crucial stuff, it's great.

    If you are using for file server or with software RAID and have a decent amount of data then ECC is the way to.
    Im using it as a ESXi VMWare host. Tried some non-ecc from my desktop and it purple screened on start up. May have just been bad luck with the type I have in my desktop, but I think ECC it will be.

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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    Quote Originally Posted by b0redom View Post
    These are the modules I use in mine:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008EM9GV...767431_TE_dp_2
    Thanks! Thats the one I was looking at above, albeit from Scan. Will just bite the bullet and go for it!

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    Re: RAM upgrade for TS140

    Yeah, I'm using one as a ESXi server (with 32GB) and one as a FreeNAS box and a couple of jails (with 16GB), way more powerful than the Microservers they replaced.

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