Adult games

[CaseyV9]

My interest with GTA IV died down a bit.
So I bought a few mags to look at other games on offer. It kind of made me remember why I abandoned consoles years ago. Those simple arcade type games I cannot stand.
Sure, there looks like some PC titles are winging it's way to Xbox 360. Alan wake and Fallout 3.
And Prototype looks like it'll be good.

With Alone in the dark aparently turning out to be a diappointment, yesterday I bought myself The Darkness. I love it. It reminds me of Max Payne on PC.

Are there any more Adult type games out for XBox 360 that are an good? And why?

[Zadock]

Depends what kinds of games you like really...

How about Mass Effect or Jade Empire (I think Jade is available for the 360?)?

Theres always Elderscrolls Oblivion, not exaclty an adult game but its a 15!

[CaseyV9]

Originally Posted by Zadock

Depends what kinds of games you like really...

How about Mass Effect or Jade Empire (I think Jade is available for the 360?)?

Theres always Elderscrolls Oblivion, not exaclty an adult game but its a 15!

Yeah, Oblivion was good. Got that on PC.
I reckon I'll give Mass Effect a go. Any games more violent and twisted but not arcady?

[Zadock]

I'm a PC user, just going by common titles really...

Its ashame there is no Witcher for the Xbox, quality game.

have a look on play theres bound to be one or two brutal FPSs for the 360

[kalniel]

Ooo you meant games for adults, not 'adult' games

The Witcher should be good when it eventually comes to 360. Gothic 4 likewise.

[directhex]

only kids consider "kids'" games beneath them. adults appreciate well-engineered games or well-crafted movies regardless of target demographic

[mycarsavw]

You could see a bit of booby in BMX XXX

[TooNice]

Originally Posted by kalniel

Ooo you meant games for adults, not 'adult' games

Yea, I was thinking about an episode of AVGN featuring Atari prawn.

[CaseyV9]

Originally Posted by directhex

only kids consider "kids'" games beneath them. adults appreciate well-engineered games or well-crafted movies regardless of target demographic

Ooohhhh, no, no no.
I'm no kid. I don't look down on games aimed at all ages. Oblivion and Dreamfall. All good.
Maybe I haven't phrased myself properly.

When I sit down and think of my favorite games:

Fallout 2 - Vampire Bloodlines - Max Payne 1 & 2 - Legacy Of Kain - GTA IV - Silent Hill 2.
All adult themed games. These games are the one's I have always really enjoyed. loved them to death.

If you handed me over a game with a fat italian or something jumping up and down on brightly coloured blocks or the 100th Streetfighter game or another racing game. Or the types of games where you have to collect silly objects I would probably foam at the mouth and bite you.
It's limbo land for me.

For me I think the newer Silent Hill's are are not something that interests me now, It just ain't fresh to me now.
I like the Marcarbe, the uneasy atmosphere. I like to feel scared. I crave the artistic, I like the realistic situations I never want to experience in real life. Gothic comics, Mafia movies. These I love playing. But looking at them, They are all adult themed games. I can't help it that I prefer these types of games. But this is what pushes my buttons.

Where can I get more?

[directhex]

Originally Posted by CaseyV9

Ooohhhh, no, no no.
I'm no kid. I don't look down on games aimed at all ages. Oblivion and Dreamfall. All good.
Maybe I haven't phrased myself properly.

When I sit down and think of my favorite games:

Fallout 2 - Vampire Bloodlines - Max Payne 1 & 2 - Legacy Of Kain - GTA IV - Silent Hill 2.
All adult themed games. These games are the one's I have always really enjoyed. loved them to death.

If you handed me over a game with a fat italian or something jumping up and down on brightly coloured blocks or the 100th Streetfighter game or another racing game. Or the types of games where you have to collect silly objects I would probably foam at the mouth and bite you.
It's limbo land for me.

For me I think the newer Silent Hill's are are not something that interests me now, It just ain't fresh to me now.
I like the Marcarbe, the uneasy atmosphere. I like to feel scared. I crave the artistic, I like the realistic situations I never want to experience in real life. Gothic comics, Mafia movies. These I love playing. But looking at them, They are all adult themed games. I can't help it that I prefer these types of games. But this is what pushes my buttons.

Where can I get more?

i won't attempt to disagree with your list because, frankly, i can't - there are some real corkers in that list. i even agree about the shoddiness of of silent hill 4 - but i disagree with your reasoning of why you like those games

the first rule of statistics is "correlation does not imply causation". you like good games adult games - but that does not mean adultness causes goodness. there are a plethora of games with adult themes which are, frankly, childish in execution and tone (e.g. the punisher, or manhunt, or whatever. i could list a few hundred if it makes you feel better)

the games you list are great games because they have deep, moving stories, immaculate presentation. the characters provoke emotion, you care about their stories, and the atmosphere of the game draws you in enough to immerse yourself in the experience. silent hill 4 falls flat not because you're bored of the concept, but because it's got characters more wooden then keanu reeves, and four cliche'd levels (which you have to play through twice) full of unfair monsters and illogical settings

and just as you can find some real dross "for kids" (e.g. any THQ movie-licensed game), you can equally find some games with all the same tickboxes as your first list - say, Psychonauts, Okami, Beyond Good & Evil.

it's not gore that makes a game appeal to adults, it's experiences more engrossing than "lol i r teh violent killar", which is equally shallow whether the target is throwing someone in a wood chipper versus jumping on a cliche'd platform monster's head

i enjoy being told a story. pixar tell good stories as much as tarantino.

[samcross]

Bioshock sounds like your kind of game

[directhex]

it does. perhaps dead rising? condemned 1 & 2?

[cougarslam]

max payne, gta 4 deep moving stories

[Steven W]

Just reviewing Bourne Conspiracy at the moment, review on HEXUS.gaming early next week, but I'm about 25% through it and so far I think its absolutely brilliant.

[directhex]

Originally Posted by cougarslam

max payne, gta 4 deep moving stories

absolutely

max payne does a good job at being a frank miller graphic novel, and charting the rise and fall of max payne (wait, that was the name of the sequel). gta4 has hundreds of interweaving stories - if you want the game without the depth and polish, go play saints' row then complain.

[CaseyV9]

Originally Posted by directhex

i won't attempt to disagree with your list because, frankly, i can't - there are some real corkers in that list. i even agree about the shoddiness of of silent hill 4 - but i disagree with your reasoning of why you like those games

the first rule of statistics is "correlation does not imply causation". you like good games adult games - but that does not mean adultness causes goodness. there are a plethora of games with adult themes which are, frankly, childish in execution and tone (e.g. the punisher, or manhunt, or whatever. i could list a few hundred if it makes you feel better)

the games you list are great games because they have deep, moving stories, immaculate presentation. the characters provoke emotion, you care about their stories, and the atmosphere of the game draws you in enough to immerse yourself in the experience. silent hill 4 falls flat not because you're bored of the concept, but because it's got characters more wooden then keanu reeves, and four cliche'd levels (which you have to play through twice) full of unfair monsters and illogical settings

and just as you can find some real dross "for kids" (e.g. any THQ movie-licensed game), you can equally find some games with all the same tickboxes as your first list - say, Psychonauts, Okami, Beyond Good & Evil.

it's not gore that makes a game appeal to adults, it's experiences more engrossing than "lol i r teh violent killar", which is equally shallow whether the target is throwing someone in a wood chipper versus jumping on a cliche'd platform monster's head

i enjoy being told a story. pixar tell good stories as much as tarantino.

Good point here.
It's like with Psychonauts. I've played thousands of Platform games since I was a kid. It's not something I want to play now. No doubt for anyone that Psychonauts is a well made and has a great story to it. For me the platform jumping around killed it for me. And Beyond Good And Evil just couldn't get me hooked either.

I wouldn't call Manhunt and the Punnisher adult games. They are violent. but they are so dumbed down. it's just childish, unrealsitc and not immerssive at all.
It's that Arcade expireince.
And this is my very point when it comes to Adult titles.

Consoles and PC's are becoming capable of producing very realistic worlds. This is adding more depths to games. Like in The Darkness light is an important factor in it. Also you now have physics and stuff and more ways to interact with the enviroment. Since FPS shooters and violent games with a strong horror theme are probably my more prefered type game, I believe that this requires a product aimed at adults. Since the games are becoming more and more realistic. The Darkness is a very believeable world. Same with Bioshock. You set someone on fire and they dive into water to put themselves out.

I agree, Pixar probably could tell just as good a story as Tarantino. But what kind of storys do you like to be told? And do you still want to be jumping about on monsters heads when games of today can offer so much more?

I already have played through Bioshock on the PC twice. But I found the story flawed and the twist in in it not very good.

Thanks for the suggestion of Condemed 1 & 2 though. I think I'll hunt them down after I get through The Darkness.
I'm not sure about Dead Rising though. It looked a bit repetive and shallow?