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    Old 03-10-2005, 08:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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    internet going REALLY slow at home... router reset will fix it.

    yo guys,

    been having problems with home network. Here's the setup:

    cable modem plugged into MSI router (will post the model when I get home, don't have it on hand).

    Out of the router, 3 PCs connected via CAT5 cable, and one PC connected via wireless.

    Quite often, the internet will start running really, really slow on all PCs on the network. A quick log into the router, and reset it - and we're back on track - full speed ahead.

    This doesn't happen all the time, but at least once every few hours.

    We CANNOT figure out what could be causing the problem if a simple reset of the router fixes it.

    2 PCs do run Azereus, and we've noticed this slows down activity on the network quite significantly. We switch Azereus off, and it's all back to normal.

    Any ideas as to where to start troubleshooting? Take all PCs of the router, and put one back in at a time?
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    Uh, you're running two instances of a bandwidth intensive program and you're wondering why the internet gets slow

    Azereus uses multiple ingoing and outgoing connections. It maxes out both your download and your upload if you allow it two, and with two instances your even more likely to have this happen, since you've got two peoples entire lists of torrents trying to be downloaded.

    I would suggest you work out what 85% of your total download is, do the same for upload. Then split both those figures in two, and set them as your max upload and download in each instance of azereus. With 15% of your upload and download free, you should get a smooth internet performance. Of course it might just be that your router doesn't have the guts to handle a very large number of simoltanious connections, in which case you have a problem, cos thats how Bittorrent works. So you'd need to upgrade your router or stop using Bittorrent.
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    Old 04-10-2005, 05:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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    I assume Azereus is some sort of P2P. If it is you should understand that P2P is a very risky activity. I suggest you stop stealing music and programs (the only reason to have P2P) and simply buy them.

    What does Azereus do?
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    Originally Posted by StormPC
    I assume Azereus is some sort of P2P. If it is you should understand that P2P is a very risky activity. I suggest you stop stealing music and programs (the only reason to have P2P) and simply buy them.

    What does Azereus do?
    Dude, why are you so confrontational? Im currently using azereus to download the bf2 patch, seeding knoppix + the opencd and also the brothers in arms demo. None of which are illegal in any way. learn something before you start calling people theives.

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    Old 04-10-2005, 05:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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    I didn't, just asked what it does.

    The fact that you had to answer the way you did tells me that's not all you do with it. Never-the-less, P2P is risky, which is my point. Don't miss it because you feel guilty about your conduct. Actually, you should not feel guilty because if you were the only one who ever stole what would police officers do? Where would wardens work?
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    Originally Posted by stormpc
    I didn't, just asked what it does.

    The fact that you had to answer the way you did tells me that's not all you do with it. Never-the-less, P2P is risky, which is my point. Don't miss it because you feel guilty about your conduct. Actually, you should not feel guilty because if you were the only one who ever stole what would police officers do? Where would wardens work?
    Originally Posted by StormPC
    I suggest you stop stealing music and programs (the only reason to have P2P)
    Right there you state that everyone who uses p2p software is a thief.

    Quantify exactly how all p2p is in anyway 'risky' as i said, i use bittorent for game demos episodes of the broken/red vs. blue etc., and linux isos exclusively, all of which are perfectly legal and not in the slightest bit risky (well, some of hacking with ramzi might be but thats not the point)

    Anyway, i cba with a flame war so, to the op, probably whats happening is your routers outbound 'buffer' (theres probably some technical term for it) is getting full with outgoing data from bittorrent, causing http data etc to get forgotten about, resetting will flush the buffer. This happens because if left to its default settings azereus will upload at around 300k/s which if youve got 2 machines + http traffic is hugely oversaturating your outgoing connection. Try throttling the upload speeds down to something more like 1/2 your upload speed (combined, so if you have 2 machines go for 1/4 your upload speed)

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    Old 04-10-2005, 07:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by StormPC
    I assume Azereus is some sort of P2P. If it is you should understand that P2P is a very risky activity. I suggest you stop stealing music and programs (the only reason to have P2P) and simply buy them.

    What does Azereus do?
    Candidate for worst post ever methinks tbh.
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    I used to get this problem all the time - my internet would last about 2 hours tops then either disconnect or go really slow. I found the solution to be the ruddy filters - too many of them somehow introduces noise/does something to the signal. So I unplugged all the filters (except the one into the router) and the problem was solved!

    You might as well try and see if it works, it worked for me.

    I sorted out the lack of phones problem by buying a quad portable phone set and plugged that into the filter.

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    Old 04-10-2005, 11:01 PM   #9 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by StormPC
    What does Azereus do?
    To be honest I'd have believed you, if you hadn't had said the previous things in that post...

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    Old 05-10-2005, 12:14 AM   #10 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by BEANFro Elite
    To be honest I'd have believed you, if you hadn't had said the previous things in that post...
    Believe what you want. Oh, and chet didn't even spell it right.

    How is it risky? That may be the worst question I've ever read in a post. You can't be serious.

    P2P is risky and the only people who use it are those who think they are getting something for nothing, thus justifying the risk.

    Stupid Wannabe Hacker thinking: Let's see, how can I get these bozos to download my worm? I know, I'll call it Britney Spears Boobs. That should do it!
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    Originally Posted by StormPC
    P2P is risky and the only people who use it are those who think they are getting something for nothing, thus justifying the risk.
    Look Storm, theres no need to be so millitant out here, P2P applications like Bearshare and Limewire are the real risky ones as these come with spyware out of the box.

    With torrent P2P applications the only "risk" is where you get these torrents from, so as long as you're on a clean site like "Mininova" which has legitimate software torrents and is a generally well looked after site, then you can expect there not to be any risks...

    That said in regards to the worm allegation, if you're not net savvy enough to know roughly how large the average film trailer or game demo is or you don't keep a range of anti-spyware applications installed then you deserve to be punished for your ignorance...


    P.S. And besides, anyone on the internet can say they don't download the latest film recorded in a cinema or whatever, but words are nothing, they're almost weightless, only the person who says he doesn't knows for sure what he downloads so please stop throwing around allegations unless you can prove without shadow of a doubt that the accused can be found guilty...

    P.S.S. I also just finished downloading the F.E.A.R. multiplayer demo, the Call of Duty 2 demo, Serious Sam 2 Demo and the BF2 v1.03 patch...so there are legitamate reasons to have a torrent downloading client on your PC afterall eh Storm

    P.S.S.S. One last thing, Storm we're all amigos here on heXus, keep your suspicions of peoples antics on the Internet to yourself, as I'm sure no one on these forums likes a witch hunt hm...??


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    Originally Posted by BEANFro Elite
    P.S.S.S. One last thing, Storm we're all amigos here on heXus, keep your suspicions of peoples antics on the Internet to yourself, as I'm sure no one on these forums likes a witch hunt hm...??
    I dont know, it depends what the prize for finding one is, im game if its something good

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    Originally Posted by specofdust
    Candidate for worst post ever methinks tbh.
    I'm thinking of writing a StormPC quote of the day app

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    Originally Posted by herulach
    I dont know, it depends what the prize for finding one is, im game if its something good
    Maybe you're right herilach, perhaps we should take a "he whom smelt it dealt it" approach as well, hee hee hee!!

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    well thanks for the helpful information people ;-)

    I am hesitant to beleive the problem is wholly attributed to Azureus. This problem happens often even when Azursus is not running.
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    I don't think it is, personally. I <gasp> walk that terrible tightrope of P2P and never have such problems. I did have a router die on me, slowly, and my net speed would gradually grind to a halt over a few hours.

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