Networking Problem!! I'm totally confused.

[Hans Voralberg]

K here's the story. I just get my self a DFI Expert (spare the comment pls, i know it's buggy). It's a great board so far, took my CPU further than the last board. The weird poblem is that I can't use the Internet. I use Wifi, the card is configured correctly, everything is normal, but there is no data coming in, the Received bit in the status is always zero, I can't even ping the router/other computer on the network

What i tried so far:
- 4 different Wifi adapter. 2 PCI, 2 USB, it just dont work.
- Use another comp as a gateway. No luck, same prob. Athough file sharing is fine
- Re-install Windows twice, all drivers are latest. BIOS is latest.

I just can't figure out what is wrong. Cant be the adapters, they're fine, and having incompatibility with 4 different ones are just ridiculous. And if the chipset is f*** up then how come wired LAN is working and file sharing is ok ???
Did my comp just contract the No-data-for-Internet-connection syndrome ??

No luck on DFI-Street and there's nothing useful in there either.

[arthurleung]

Try to give us a bit more detail? You said received bit = 0, but then you say Lan is working and file sharing is ok?

[Hans Voralberg]

Received Bit = 0 on Wifi Status Panel, LAN is wired (cross-over), file sharing is on Wired Lan as well.

[user1453]

is the gateway addreas on the wifi card the same ip addreas as the router?

[Hans Voralberg]

Yep, i checked everything over 20 times already

[ajones]

I can't see this as being a problem with the chipset.

With the wired LAN disconnected, do you receive the full network configuration for your network adaptor in the PC?

Can you ping the PC IP address and/or it's loopback?

Can you ping the IP address of the wireless side of your Wireless AP?

[kalniel]

99 times out of 100, network problems are caused by software setup mistakes.

And they can sometimes be a pain to sort out. I usually find wifi more problematic than wired as well.

Please tell us a bit more about your desired set up: How are you connecting to the internet (modem, router, access point etc.)? How are you (planning on) connecting wirelessly in terms of your client (PCMCIA card? usb wireless adaptor?) and your connection to the network (wireless router, wireless access point, other computer?)

[blueball]

Are you trying to use WiFi and Wired on same computer at same time or have I misunderstood? if you are then you might be better off starting with WiFi and disabling the Wired.

[Hans Voralberg]

The Wifi Setup: PCI Wifi adapter D-Link DWL-G520+ connect to a Origo Access Point. This is for Internet.
The Wired Setup: Nvidia Gigabit Ethernet connect to a IBM T40. Cross-over cable. 2 machine Lan.

About Ping: i can ping the myselft, loopback is 127.0.0.1 rite ? Cannot ping anything on the Wifi network, that's include router, other machines. Pinging the IBM is ok though.

The thing i can't make out is the D-link is connected, and the network is secured with WEP, so it have be able to communicate with the router to authorize the access rite? so how come there's no traffic ??

P.S: I'm sure there's no configuration problem, well at least IP address, Subnet, Gateway and DNS server is right. Security option is right. I'm running the exact configuration on the IBM and it's fine.

[user1453]

try diab;ing the security on the router and your desktop, disable all firewalls on your desktop, see if you can then connect, what firewalls are you using?

[Hans Voralberg]

All firewall disabled. Still no luck. I dont use any firewall except the window df, but it's off.

[Splash]

is MAC filtering enabled on the router?

[badass]

Firstly, unplug the wired LAN to remove that unnecessary complexity in the troubleshooting.
Is your wireless router acting as a DHCP server?
Next as said before desable all firewalls anywhere.
now do an ipconfig.
Post the results here.
Ping your Wifi adapters IP adress from the computer (i.e. the computer is pinging itself). Not 127.0.0.1 as you have already done this. Does it work?
Ping your default gateway? Does it work?
Ping an internet address like 216.239.59.104 does it work? If it does, Ping www.google.co.uk
If that works, your configuration problem is related to web browser/email etc settings. If it doesn't your DNS has problems.
If you cant ping 216.239.59.104 but up to that point everything was fine, either your router blocks ICMP or it has not connected to your ISP
do a tracert -d 216.239.59.104 and post the results

[kalniel]

First I would remove the wired network for now.

Secondly how are you connecting to the access point to configure it? If you are able to wirelessly connect to it and access it's configuration page it's a good start. If you cannot then you might be able to connect to it via a (non-crossover) ethernet cable just to configure it.

Once you can connect to the access point and are viewing it's configuration pages in your browser be sure to turn off WEP and mac filtering for now. Once you have everything running you can enable (worthless) security later.

Make sure the channel on the access point is 10 or lower - sometimes different cards don't talk very well at higher channels. Manually set your PC card to use the same channel preferably.

Is the access point 802.11b? Make sure your card is talking to that protocol and not just g.

Disable any 'extra speed' type options that try to use multiple channels.

Check that the access point can access the internet before you try and share the internet connection - there is usually a page in the configuration that checks this. If it isn't connecting, talk to your ISP/check their webpage and get the correct settings. Quite often there are a couple of things you have to change before an accesspoint will get the DNS settings from the ISP.

Once you have verified the accesspoint can access the internet, make sure it has DHCP enabled - check that you haven't got any restrictions on time of access or any obscure addresses being handed out.

Configure your computer to obtain IP address automatically and see if that works.

[Hans Voralberg]

IPCONFIG :



Ping WIFI Adapter address: WORK



Ping Default Gateway DOESNT WORK



Ping an Internet address doesnt work either.

Will try what Kalniel suggest, gotta pop to school now. A point worth noticing is that this WIFI card works perfectly fine BEFORE i change the mobo to the Expert.

[Hans Voralberg]

First I would remove the wired network for now.

Did that

Secondly how are you connecting to the access point to configure it? If you are able to wirelessly connect to it and access it's configuration page it's a good start. If you cannot then you might be able to connect to it via a (non-crossover) ethernet cable just to configure it.

I cant connect to the router wirelessly, nor wired, it's physically mpossible cause i'm on the first floor and the router on the ground floor.

Once you can connect to the access point and are viewing it's configuration pages in your browser be sure to turn off WEP and mac filtering for now. Once you have everything running you can enable (worthless) security later.


All off (use another comp to config), same prob.

Make sure the channel on the access point is 10 or lower - sometimes different cards don't talk very well at higher channels. Manually set your PC card to use the same channel preferably.

It's on 6 atm

Is the access point 802.11b? Make sure your card is talking to that protocol and not just g.

Yeah it's B, but I set that as well.

Disable any 'extra speed' type options that try to use multiple channels.

Did that.

Check that the access point can access the internet before you try and share the internet connection - there is usually a page in the configuration that checks this. If it isn't connecting, talk to your ISP/check their webpage and get the correct settings. Quite often there are a couple of things you have to change before an accesspoint will get the DNS settings from the ISP.

There's nothing wrong with the router, i'm typing this on here with that router working.

Once you have verified the accesspoint can access the internet, make sure it has DHCP enabled - check that you haven't got any restrictions on time of access or any obscure addresses being handed out.

DHCP enalbed. Turn off any restriction i can find.

Configure your computer to obtain IP address automatically and see if that works.

Doesnt work this way