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Heard about this! They have been working on restoring the lost mail for a while, but dont hold out much hope!
I can imagine the scene in their data centre: Tech 1: Dave, have you finished optimising the exchange cluster? Tech 2: Optimise, thats the same as format right? Tech 1: Er..... no! Whats the Jobcentre number? I feel a career change coming up! Change is inevitable, except from vending machines.
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I get the feeling somone is still having the piss taken out of them daily for that **** up.
Heh theres a link to the explanation of what happened, but you have to be a user
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In case you're interested the original detailed explanation of the problem is here dated July 12th. It was included on the PlusNet User Group forum which you have to be signed up to view. It's reproduced so you can read the history and attempts they appear to have made (there are many smaller updates inbetween);
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The follow up response admitting it wasn't going to work was posted on August 3rd (with a separate email that made it clear that was the end of their recovery attempts;
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Interesting story - I suppose the moral is..
Be VERY careful (double and triple check what you are deleting (and I guess most of us have done something like this, although not on such a monumental scale!) and that when you have done something major - STOP - and don't do anything else until you understand and have thought through the implications. Wonder what the 'engineer' is doing now...?
Is YOUR system up to Folding?
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The relevant forums are full of disgruntled PN customers who left their emails on PN's servers who've now lost the lot!
There are also a number of people commenting about PN's lack of a real back up system (ie tape) and how you should never be in a position where you're actually working on both original and backup system in the same operation. Having a seperate true tape backup would have minimised the issue and led to less PN customers (like me) leaving them for good. |
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the problem is that the mail unread is usualy new - few mail systems I've ever seen actualy backup mail as it arrives
![]() the main 'backup' is the fact that the mail is on massive redundant sans but thats kinda useless when someone rm -rf it ![]() there are ways of backing up live incoming mail though, for instance sending all mail to a 'backup-received' platform which wasn't on the same san/cluster - in addition to the recipients inbox. privacy laws would probabley disagree
SmoothNuts!~yaman_an@*.dsl.pipex.com > change my rating to exceptional tbh
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As usual it looks like it would of all been ok if somone hadn't panicked and tried to fix it all themselves. I think we've formatted the wrong parition before but never on a such a scale.
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Looks to me like they didn't bother testing this upgrade in a simulation environment first?
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So after this event, a different email today from Plus Net about deleting customers websites and guess what the back-up system failed here too.
Thank goodness I'm now with Eclipse.
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I forgot to add they're also the ISP who sent out 20,000 customer details by mistake!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07...tomer_details/ |
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