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    Re: Linux Server (NAS)

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    Re: Linux Server (NAS)

    I've gone with MSDOS for the partition table.

    I'm partitioning the drives now, so someone please remind me what size I should use for the debian installation and allowing for updates, as well as space needed for SWAP and RAM?

    Thank you so much.

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    Re: Linux Server (NAS)

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    Partitioning - one for /, one for /var one for /home - you will need a small one for /boot. and another one that will be used for the swap file. Rule of thumbv used to be double the size of RAM, but IMHO that is a bit ott - probably equal to ram size will be fine. That is on the system disk. You then want a mount point(s) for the storage disc - how you partition that is really a matter of preference - and each partition can have its own mount pount in thye filesystem.
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    Re: Linux Server (NAS)

    Okay, thanks for that.

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    100MB for boot partition, 
    4GB for SWAP partition
    20GB for /
    
    Not sure about /home or /var.

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    Re: Linux Server (NAS)

    I did 100mb for /boot, 10gb for /, 3gb for /var and 3gb for swap. This is with ubuntu server and I have had no problems. You do not need to do separate /home, just mount the rest of the space in a subfolder within the home folder and put all your files there

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    Re: Linux Server (NAS)

    Quote Originally Posted by SiM View Post
    I did 100mb for /boot, 10gb for /, 3gb for /var and 3gb for swap. This is with ubuntu server and I have had no problems. You do not need to do separate /home, just mount the rest of the space in a subfolder within the home folder and put all your files there
    Thank you for your thoughts. What about if I want the /home partition on the 3x1TB HDD array?

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    Re: Linux Server (NAS)

    How would I go about doing that?

    If I create the following partitions:

    /boot @ 100MB
    / @ 20GB
    /var @20GB
    /tmp @ 10GB
    SWAP @ 2GB

    Debian is installed in "/"? What is the difference between that and /boot?

    Please could you also tell me what specifically is the need for /usr?
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    20 Gb is probably too much for / Sim's layout sounds about right.

    Remember that the file system is not hard drive centric (unlike windows). As a user do you care where the physical location of the data is? For all you care, it can be on any disk, on a lan, or using iSCSI, anywhere on the internet. Of course as the admin - you do care, because it is imporrtant to know what to back up. Remeber you - as a computer/system owner, have two roles - one as admin - where you will use rootly privileges, and one as user, when you will only need low priviliges.

    So to go back to your question. about /home. Yoiu may get the option to define /home as part of the set up, but if not, or as a general principle, how do you add a hard drive to the file system?

    Let us say you want to add /music to your file system. You add the mountpoint /music using the mkdir command from /. Do once you have a terminal window open with rootly privilges.

    These ommands are for Fedora - ubmtu shouldn't be that different - but check!!!

    cd /
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    ls -l

    This will list all the directories and files in / and you should see music. Note that this does not exist anywhere - it is a mountpoint on the file system.

    Now let us say that you have a partition on drive sdb. The first partition will be sdb1. you can mount this using the command in generic terms "mount something somewhere"

    mount /dev/sdb1 /music (you might need a few options there)

    Now if you go to /music - you will see the files.

    If you want that mounted automatically you need to edit a config file, in fedora it is /etc/fstab

    so using a text editor (I generally use vim)

    vim /etc/fstab

    and enter a line like this....

    /dev/hda7 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g auto,user 0 0

    This is acually a line from my fstab file and it means

    auto mount at start up partition 7 on device hda at mount point /mnt/windows and recognise it as an ntfs partition.

    Again read up on fstab (use command man fstab) to see how to add entries.

    This is another entry

    /dev/system/var /var ext3 defaults 1 2

    Here /dev/system/var is part of a logical volume called var on a logical group called system. (The logical group consists of several partitions on a drive - or could be many drives)

    So I mount at start up an ext3 filesystem at mountpoint /var the partition /dev/system/var

    Note how neat this is - I have different file systems mounted on the same tree. As a user I neither know (nor care) what the file systems are, or where they are, I just use them. Even neater, you can mount the same partition at different mountpoints if you want to - bu beware, if you have a partition mounted, and you mount something else at the same mountpoint, the first set of files will be inaccessible until the second file system is unmounted - but you could mount that first filesystem somewhere else.

    If it all sounds a bit confusing, remeber that the centerwe of the world is not the hard drive - it is the file system. Windows has tried to achieve that with a desktop centric view - the desktop contains hard drive partitions, but to my mind it is a bit of a kludge - but if it helps you to grasp the concept, think of it in that way - but it is really better than that.
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    Re: Linux Server (NAS)

    *Jaw drop"

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    Re: Linux Server (NAS)

    Thanks for that very complicated explanation

    When creating the partitions, is the primary partition "/"? and the logical "/boot"? I'm assuming that Debian will install to "/" and not "/boot".

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    Re: Linux Server (NAS)

    I'm guessing that the primary partition is "/" as this is the root for Debian.

    I'm now on this screen:

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    [!!] Partition Disks
    
     Partition settings:
    
                   Use as:                  Ext3 journaling file system
                   Mount point:             /
                   Mount options:           defaults
                   Label:                   /
                   Reserved blocks          20GB
                   Typical useage:          standard
                   Bootable flag:           off
                   
     
    
                   Copy data from another partition
                   Delete the partition
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    Do I keep the file system mentioned above? Are these settings okay?

    Will I need to choose any other settings for the other partitions?

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    A large root will do ok, you should probably also have a 1 or 2GB swap, just in case. Any additional space after that should probably go to /home.
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    Thank you, is that the right partition system to use?

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    Re: Linux Server (NAS)

    Quote Originally Posted by oimi View Post
    Thank you, is that the right partition system to use?
    There's really no 'right' partition setup, it's a bit of an art form, which you'll refine with experience for each given situation. The partition scheme I mentioned is the one which will give you the least hassle since it's relatively simple.
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