RYZEN 5 3400G QUAD CORE 4.2GHZ advice needed

[Lost4words]

RYZEN 5 3400G QUAD CORE 4.2GHZ (SOCKET AM4) APU WITH RX VEGA 11 GRAPHICS - RETAIL

What mini itx motherboard and ram would be good to pair with the above please?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I assume this is not going to be overclocked?? The MSI,Gigabyte and ASRock B450 mini-ITX motherboards are all around the same price and would be fine. The main advantage the Gigabyte has is a top mounted M2 slot which is heatsinked,and the SOC portion of the VRM heatsink being heatsinked too(this handles the IGP part of the SOC). The MSI B450 mini-ITX motherboard has the best VRMs of all of them,but this is only relevant if you want to put in a higher end CPU at a later date. I would get this RAM:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-Bal...447470&sr=8-15

[Lost4words]

Thanks Cat. As usual, you are a great help my friend.

I wont be over clocking or using a dedicated GPU

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Thanks Cat. As usual, you are a great help my friend.

I wont be over clocking or using a dedicated GPU

Only thing is Zen3 and the Zen2 based APUs might launch to DIY later in the year. They have been released to OEM systems already:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_page..._review,1.html

[cptwhite_uk]

MSI B450i has terrible CMOS jumper position (in the middle of the rear I/O somewhere). Not good if you're putting a large heatsink over the top. Apparently they did the same again on their B550, but put a plastic shroud over the top as well, so it's completely inaccessible when installed ....fail.

Can I also praise the merits of a front mounted M.2 slot with heatsink. I was using an Intel ITX board (forget which model, but for Coffee lake chips) with the M.2 around the back. In the case I was using, this ended up being between the GPU and CPU, as a nice toasty NVME sandwich. Now try installing Flightsim 2020 onto that drive - decompressing over 90Gb of data continuously. The PC was failing continuously, until I diagnosed the issue, ripped the outer case off and put a 16" fan in front of it to get the temps down on the NVME drive.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I have an Asus Strix B450I(which is utterly overpriced now so can't recommend),which has a top mounted M2 slot.It was either that or the Gigabyte for me(the Asus had a better VRM). I run Fallout 4 which has been modded with a few hundred mods(including texture mods),and is over 200GB in size once you include Vortex/NMM virtual installs. One of my load orders had 4K texture mods for everything.It won't run on a HDD,and at times I can see peaks upto 900MB/S depending on the load order. I always use horizontal air coolers on mini-ITX systems,as the cooler will suck up cooler air over the VRMs and chipset heatsinks.

I have it running off a NVME SSD and in under 2 years of usage,apparently have 100TB of reads off the disc so far. If the NVME had been mounted under the PCB like many other AM4 mini-ITX motherboards had it would have been cooked due to hardly any airflow.

[BobF64]

You can always go a bit mad and run with this..

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asro...ga-usb-31-type

[Lost4words]

Yea, i read about those. Not too fusy to be honest. Just want a nice system now

[Lost4words]

I assume this is not going to be overclocked?? The MSI,Gigabyte and ASRock B450 mini-ITX motherboards are all around the same price and would be fine. The main advantage the Gigabyte has is a top mounted M2 slot which is heatsinked,and the SOC portion of the VRM heatsink being heatsinked too(this handles the IGP part of the SOC). The MSI B450 mini-ITX motherboard has the best VRMs of all of them,but this is only relevant if you want to put in a higher end CPU at a later date. I would get this RAM:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-Bal...447470&sr=8-15

Any link to that mobo with M2 slot on the top? I dont want to choose the wrong one...lol...thanks

[DanceswithUnix]

I believe he means:

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Aorus-B45...dp/B07GZW32BV/

Nice board, I've used it.

While you can't use a B550 board with that CPU (officially at least) an X570 board should also support it if you want the option of future upgrades. Twice the price though.

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/X570-AORU...dp/B07TTP74XR/

[[GSV]Trig]

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/X570-AORU...dp/B07TTP74XR/

Picked up one of those used, £150, awesome board, its meant to be going into my server when I get the rest of the bits to rebuild it...

[Lost4words]

I believe he means:

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Aorus-B45...dp/B07GZW32BV/

Nice board, I've used it.

While you can't use a B550 board with that CPU (officially at least) an X570 board should also support it if you want the option of future upgrades. Twice the price though.

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/X570-AORU...dp/B07TTP74XR/

I thought he recommended a Gigabyte board?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Any link to that mobo with M2 slot on the top? I dont want to choose the wrong one...lol...thanks

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aorus-B450-...BV/?pldnSite=1

Its Gigabyte Aorus.

[Lost4words]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Aorus-B450-...BV/?pldnSite=1

Its Gigabyte Aorus.

Lol, i was reading it as 'Asus'

[Lost4words]

So, this spec look ok guys?

AMD B450 I AORUS PRO ac WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard
AMD Ryzen 5 3400G VEGA Graphics AM4 CPU with Wraith Spire Cooler
be quiet 500 Watt System Power 9 CM Semi Modular Bronze ATX PSU/Power Supply
Intel 660p 512GB M.2 PCIe QLC 3D NVMe SSD/Solid State Drive
Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB 3600 MHz DDR4 Dual Channel Memory Kit

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Don't get Corsair RAM due to the module lottery. The Crucial 3200MHZ and 3600MHZ kits have Micron E-die,which works well with Ryzen. Also,there is no guarentee the Ryzen 5 3400G will work out of the box with 3600MHZ RAM,so you will need to probably run it a 3200MHZ.

Also the Intel 660P is a QLC drive. There are drives such as the WD Blue SN550 which are a better all-rounder.