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    insane 7970 prices

    why are last gen cards to close to in price online to the new versions ie r9 280x? i know performance is similar but they are one year older and won't support stuff like freesync

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    They still used by Bitcoin Miners?

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    Quote Originally Posted by erudito87 View Post
    why are last gen cards to close to in price online to the new versions ie r9 280x? i know performance is similar but they are one year older and won't support stuff like freesync
    Neither does the 280X from what I remember. Remember, the R9 280X is not a new card really.

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Neither does the 280X from what I remember. Remember, the R9 280X is not a new card really.
    For the purposes of support, yes it is.

    Regardless of them having the exact same silicon, I would expect driver support for the 7970 to drop into the hole that is legacy driver when the 280X is still mainline.

    I say this from seeing the HD4670 removed from the supported list when the same silicon in mobile form is an HD5000 series part so still supported. VLIW5 in general should be supported for a while as it is in the Llano APU with a label of "HD 6550D", and that starts with a 6.

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    I say this from seeing the HD4670 removed from the supported list when the same silicon in mobile form is an HD5000 series part so still supported.
    The mobility HD4670 is only DX10.1 isn't it? the HD5000 series have DX11 functionality.

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    The mobility HD4670 is only DX10.1 isn't it? the HD5000 series have DX11 functionality.
    Can't remember the part number, but the HD4670 desktop part was re-used as a *mobile* HD5000 series part.

    Marketing re-labels chips with new numbers, QA department forces them into retirement some years after release.

    I'm not saying AMD are wrong in doing this, but when buying AMD I am more inclined to get the latest model number I can.

    Now, if you can re-flash a 7970 BIOS to say the card is a 280X...

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Can't remember the part number, but the HD4670 desktop part was re-used as a *mobile* HD5000 series part.
    Ah in this case though the software stack is different because the mobiles have (had) different power options - even if the same (or mostly) silicon is underneath.

    I'm not saying AMD are wrong in doing this, but when buying AMD I am more inclined to get the latest model number I can.

    Now, if you can re-flash a 7970 BIOS to say the card is a 280X...
    Yeah, certainly if there is no other difference then I'd go for the later, but I wouldn't go out and replace a 7970 with a 280X

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Ah in this case though the software stack is different because the mobiles have (had) different power options - even if the same (or mostly) silicon is underneath.
    Oh there are detail differences, but the point is the driver has to be able to cope with VLIW5 architecture until Llano and Bobcat are considered old and unsupported. So why drop older VLIW5 products? I'm guessing QA will be behind that. They have to give up at some point.

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    Damn bitminers! i thought the main crypto things were worked out and there was no point in doing it anymore? btw would it be worth going for a 6990 to game a 2560 by 1440?

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    Quote Originally Posted by erudito87 View Post
    Damn bitminers! i thought the main crypto things were worked out and there was no point in doing it anymore? btw would it be worth going for a 6990 to game a 2560 by 1440?
    I would not recommend going for a 6990 not only because the tech on that is outdated but also because it's still quite expensive. Get something with a GCN architecture like the 7000 series and above. I'd say this gen, the R9 series are solid cards that provide great value for money. If you do want a card for 1440p gaming, I'd suggest - 780, 780ti, 290, 290x as the top end single GPUs and the 280X as a mid range option at that resolution. With the 280X, you should be getting decent frames at Mid-High settings at that resolution.

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    Quote Originally Posted by sidsapcewalker View Post
    I would not recommend going for a 6990 not only because the tech on that is outdated but also because it's still quite expensive. Get something with a GCN architecture like the 7000 series and above. I'd say this gen, the R9 series are solid cards that provide great value for money. If you do want a card for 1440p gaming, I'd suggest - 780, 780ti, 290, 290x as the top end single GPUs and the 280X as a mid range option at that resolution. With the 280X, you should be getting decent frames at Mid-High settings at that resolution.
    Thanks for the reply. I managed to get a msi r9 280x for £120 online and my 7970 is going to repaired or replaced by xfx; so hopefully I can cross fire them.

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    I wouldnt complain if the newer ones were less.

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    I wouldnt complain if the newer ones were less...

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    sorry dont know why that double posted.......

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    Quote Originally Posted by erudito87 View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I managed to get a msi r9 280x for £120 online and my 7970 is going to repaired or replaced by xfx; so hopefully I can cross fire them.
    Glad to hear, I'm a little curious as to where/how you got that sweat deal lol.

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    Re: insane 7970 prices

    Quote Originally Posted by sidsapcewalker View Post
    Glad to hear, I'm a little curious as to where/how you got that sweat deal lol.
    Lol ebay as per usual for me. I always tend to get epic deals on there.

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