Joomla intranet works on localhost, vanished on network

[snootyjim]

I know pretty much nothing about web development or Joomla, but I am maintaining a Joomla-based intranet at the moment and it's just vanished into thin air.

If I go onto the server (I have physical access to Server 2003) I can access it via localhost, but across the network it's usually available at eg http://x.org

At the moment that address produces a page like so:

Under Construction


The site you are trying to view does not currently have a default page. It may be in the process of being upgraded and configured.

Please try this site again later. If you still experience the problem, try contacting the Web site administrator.


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If you are the Web site administrator and feel you have received this message in error, please see "Enabling and Disabling Dynamic Content" in IIS Help.

Does anyone have any ideas about what I should do? I think someone might have been mucking around with IIS while I was away - we didn't have it running previously but I know it was meant to be added at some point, but I honestly don't know (and can't easily find out). Could that be relevant?

[Moby-Dick]

does the joomla app listen on a different port ? sounds like apache and IIS are clashing on who will display pages on port 80. I'd try and stop iis services ( assuming nothing else is using IIS ) and see if apache responds to the external requests.

[snootyjim]

does the joomla app listen on a different port ? sounds like apache and IIS are clashing on who will display pages on port 80. I'd try and stop iis services ( assuming nothing else is using IIS ) and see if apache responds to the external requests.

It's Symantec Endpoint that's demanded the installation of IIS, so stopping IIS services is probably not an option - however, I'm 99% sure that you're right and there is some form of clash going on. They aren't running on the same server either so I suspect that the installation of IIS has gone through and no-one was even aware that it might interfere with something else on the network.

Cheers for explaining it, anything web/internet related really isn't my strong point so it helps when someone translates it into something I find a bit more understandable. I'll have a look at apache now and see if I can come up with anything.

[Moby-Dick]

so IIS is on a different server ?

in that case you need to look at your internal DNS ?

can you refence the joomla site from http://server.ip.address ?

[snootyjim]

so IIS is on a different server ?

in that case you need to look at your internal DNS ?

can you refence the joomla site from http://server.ip.address ?

Bingo, worked like a charm!

What's happened to the DNS then?

[Moby-Dick]

not sure

if you ping the DNS site name , does it go to the same IP ?

you might need get a new local DNS record set ( or even dirty WINS if you use it. )

[snootyjim]

not sure

if you ping the DNS site name , does it go to the same IP ?

you might need get a new local DNS record set ( or even dirty WINS if you use it. )

Yeah it pings okay, brings up the right IP.

[Splash]

Take a peek at http://www.simpledns.com/kb.aspx?kbid=1149 - I suspect your issue is likely down to the host header value for the virtual host for the Joomla site.

[snootyjim]

Take a peek at http://www.simpledns.com/kb.aspx?kbid=1149 - I suspect your issue is likely down to the host header value for the virtual host for the Joomla site.

Okay, just had a look at that now - only problem is, it's not immediately clear to me how I can use that function to provide a link to another server. It permits me (via a bit of wrangling) to specify a share where the site is located, e.g. index.htm is located, but this being Joomla I have no idea where I'm meant to be looking for it.

HTML text editing makes perfect sense to me - I make a file, I know where it is, I link to it, and it renders... Joomla, Apache and so on is completely meaningless

[Splash]

Aha... I missed the part where the Joomla install was located on a different server to IIS, my bad. Also the mentioning of Apache is confusing - which webserver is serving this content?

[snootyjim]

Also the mentioning of Apache is confusing - which webserver is serving this content?

Sorry, you may as well have written that in Dutch - means nothing to me. I have server number one, with WAMP, Joomla, and Server 2003 DNS. Then I have server number two, with Server 2003 DNS and IIS. Since IIS was installed onto the second server, the intranet link ceased to work.

That's about as much as I understand, apart from the fact that DNS should turn http://x.org into 192.168.X.X, but at the moment it doesn't seem to be doing that.

[Splash]

Ok, when you ping x.org does it return the ip address of the WAMP or the IIS server?

[snootyjim]

Wamp

[Splash]

Interesting... is IIS also installed on the WAMP server perchance? The error message in your OP is generated by an IIS webserver is all, so either IIS is also running on the WAMP box (and somehow overruling Apache, which is one explanation) or some other Dr Bizarro thing is going on with web traffic being redirected to the IIS box. Does your install allow you to run a port checker or something (I know XAMPP does, no idea about WAMP) which can tell you which server is listening on port 80?

[snootyjim]

Interesting... is IIS also installed on the WAMP server perchance? The error message in your OP is generated by an IIS webserver is all, so either IIS is also running on the WAMP box (and somehow overruling Apache, which is one explanation) or some other Dr Bizarro thing is going on with web traffic being redirected to the IIS box. Does your install allow you to run a port checker or something (I know XAMPP does, no idea about WAMP) which can tell you which server is listening on port 80?

Nope, no IIS on the WAMP server.

I'm not aware of any port checker, and I haven't come across any information about one whilst searching. I ran netstat -o -n -a | findstr 0.0.0.0:80 in cmd which said that httpd.exe was listening on port 80 for that machine - although whether that's relevant or not I'm not sure.

[Splash]

Definitely something odd going on there then, I was going to suggest that you check the alias directory



but by the sounds of it that's not the issue. Just so I'm sure - when you refer to WAMP is this a self-built install of Apache, PHP and MySQL or actually WAMPServer?