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    Old 11-03-2008, 02:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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    This is why the dole should be stopped.

    BBC NEWS | Magazine | The £7-per-hour jobs locals don't want

    Originally Posted by beeb
    But that's not enough to entice some of the local lads picking up their dole money in Peterborough. A constant trickle of young men are in and out of the office collecting their state benefits. But there's little appetite for taking one of those vegetable-picking jobs of up to £7-an-hour

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    "No mate I'd prefer to sign-on than do that."

    "I don't want to work in like no cornfield."
    who the f**k do they think they are.

    in fact anyone right now who's on the dole, how can you possibly justify it, its not as if there are no jobs, just jobs people aren't willing to do. I think people on the dole, need to be clearly labeled as below par, regardless of how they view themselfs a bathroom sanitation operative is much higher up the food chain, and when looking at jobs, they should have no option but to realise this.

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    Old 11-03-2008, 03:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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    I was reading this earlier too. It should most certainly be stopped for people that are unwilling to find work, when there are so many jobs that they could do, but they're too ******* lazy to even consider. I'd support a government that forced capable people to work.
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    Old 11-03-2008, 03:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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    Re: This is why the dole should be stopped.

    Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Well he thinks he is someone who doesn't want to do 'monotonous, physical work with 60-hour weeks', standing in a field full of Eastern Europeans, somewhere in Peterborough.

    I can see his point...

    How many of us, if finding ourselves out of work, and offered a 60 hour veg plucking session with Zlatan Pewtowski and his 15 uncles, would do that rather than sign on and watch Murder She Wrote?

    This isn't North Korea.

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    Old 11-03-2008, 03:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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    Pffffffffft........lucky to get above minimum wage here in Devon.
    That £7 is £1.48 more than I get, and housing costs down here are pretty ridiculous.

    Reinstate national service and get the dossers doing something useful-----if nothing else at least they'll get some training.

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    Originally Posted by Stewart View Post

    How many of us, if finding ourselves out of work, and offered a 60 hour veg plucking session with Zlatan Pewtowski and his 15 uncles, would do that rather than sign on and watch Murder She Wrote?

    This isn't North Korea.
    I thought this thread was about work-not race.

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    Old 11-03-2008, 04:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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    Re: This is why the dole should be stopped.

    Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    Well he thinks he is someone who doesn't want to do 'monotonous, physical work with 60-hour weeks', standing in a field full of Eastern Europeans, somewhere in Peterborough.

    I can see his point...

    How many of us, if finding ourselves out of work, and offered a 60 hour veg plucking session with Zlatan Pewtowski and his 15 uncles, would do that rather than sign on and watch Murder She Wrote?

    This isn't North Korea.
    I would do and have done a job, but then again i'm not a lazy chav/pikey (i'm a student )
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    Old 11-03-2008, 04:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
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    Re: This is why the dole should be stopped.

    Originally Posted by vaio View Post
    I thought this thread was about work-not race.

    to re-write stewart post -
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    How many of us, if finding ourselves out of work, and offered a 60 hour veg plucking session with chavie Kevand his 15 chavie mates, would do that rather than sign on and watch Murder She Wrote?
    Same argument applies

    Other than it is fundamentally flawed because chavs don't work
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    Old 11-03-2008, 04:05 PM   #8 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    Well he thinks he is someone who doesn't want to do 'monotonous, physical work with 60-hour weeks', standing in a field full of Eastern Europeans, somewhere in Peterborough.

    I can see his point...

    How many of us, if finding ourselves out of work, and offered a 60 hour veg plucking session with Zlatan Pewtowski and his 15 uncles, would do that rather than sign on and watch Murder She Wrote?

    This isn't North Korea.
    anyone who was remotely hungry?

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    Old 11-03-2008, 04:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    anyone who was remotely hungry?
    but then they'd be around food all day, and not be able to eat it, thus increasing their hunger?

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    Old 11-03-2008, 04:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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    but then they'd be around food all day, and not be able to eat it, thus increasing their hunger?
    only because asda pay their till slaves so little, so theres not enough cashiers for them to turn their hard earned money into pot noodle or what ever people norht of the whatford gap eat.

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    Old 11-03-2008, 04:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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    Re: This is why the dole should be stopped.

    I must admit...although i dont agree with all you say, your thread (especially the post above), make me chuckle.


    BTW......Take a look at the chav (AKA Sam Dingle) that doesnt want to work for £7per hour.
    I wouldnt employ that scruffy bufoon for £5 per hour. He makes Jade Goody look smart.

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    Old 11-03-2008, 04:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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    pot noodle or what ever people norht of the whatford gap eat.
    Have you got a cock in your mouth?

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    Old 11-03-2008, 09:02 PM   #13 (permalink)
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    I think we should send all the chavs over to Poland and keep their workers. I am really sick of seeing all this anti immigration right wing barely disguised racism. I see no evidence of them puttinga strain on our local services in the North and in fact having worked in the NHS a few years back I reckon without those skilled immigrants the NHS would really be in the crap right now. The unskilled ones are the ones doing all the crap jobs like farming and driving buses (sorry Rave...) and I think we should be very thankful for that. There seem to be so many people who want to blame all are woes on immigration and they don't even realise its just a big smoke screen used by the government to cover up their own inadequacies. Whenever they screw something up or want some public support they just wave it around like a pork sandwich in a room full of muslims and sit back while everybody goes mental. Just look at the ID cards/National identity register fiasco, one of the most touted uses is that it will help with 'immigration' and 'illegals' (for the record, it won't do any such thing and even if it did I am not convinced we have a problem anyway). I for one am sick of it.

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    Old 11-03-2008, 10:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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    I see no evidence of them puttinga strain on our local services in the North and in fact having worked in the NHS a few years back I reckon without those skilled immigrants the NHS would really be in the crap right now.
    I'm glad your area isn't one that is affected but as someone who lives in Peterborough I can assure you that it is definitely a problem round here.

    The population of Peterborough has been increased by at least 10% by the influx of migrant workers just in the last couple of years. That is a phenomenal increase and one that no community can stand without serious effects.

    You only have to walk around the town in the middle of the day to see how many of them are not working.
    I suggest you come down here and sit in the benefits office for half an hour before you accuse people of racism.

    The biggest problem is the way money is being taken out of our economy. A large proportion of the migrants are here relatively short term, saving every penny they can by living several families to a house and sending a lot of the money back home. This is not an opinion. It is a fact.

    I have no problem at all with people coming here and becoming part of the community. Peterborough has a large Asian community and I for one would not be without them. They are here for the long haul and are valuable members of the community. Our nation has been built over centuries by people coming and settling here, enriching the country with ethnic diversity.
    Many of the East Europeans do indeed intend to settle here and I welcome them

    I do object however to people coming here for one or two years and then buggering off home with full pockets.

    The only people round here who see the benefit of all this unrestricted immigration are the employers who have a ready source of cheap manual labour. Wages for all kinds of manual work have dropped significantly since the floodgates opened.

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    Old 11-03-2008, 10:35 PM   #15 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    How many of us, if finding ourselves out of work, and offered a 60 hour veg plucking session with Zlatan Pewtowski and his 15 uncles, would do that rather than sign on and watch Murder She Wrote?
    That's the point though. He shouldn't be given the choice. Why should those of us who do work pay for him to sit at home and watch televison? There really should be a cut off time after which they should have to accept ANY work that is offered. There are too many people for whom living on benefits is the easy way out.

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    Old 11-03-2008, 10:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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    I'm a fan of bringing back the workhouse. Provide government assistance to ensure that people out of work can survive at a subsistence level, but make them work for it, even if the work they do isn't that productive, like picking apart rope. Watch how quickly the chavs start picking veggies!

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