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    Old 26-05-2004, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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    Berg video a fake:This is worth keeping an eye on, is as yet unconfirmed

    http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/...watermarks.htm

    So is the US capable of this as PSY-OPS?

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    Old 26-05-2004, 11:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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    There were reports last week that the content of the video was fake as well:

    http://www.aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm
    http://www.aztlan.net/fake_video.htm
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    Old 26-05-2004, 11:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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    This claim links it with a digital signature to the camera used to take the abu ghraib abuse videos.

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    Old 26-05-2004, 12:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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    Last I heard it was the same camera used to fake the moon landings.
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    Old 26-05-2004, 12:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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    Originally Posted by TeePee
    Last I heard it was the same camera used to fake the moon landings.
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    seriously though

    There are conspiracy theories abound on this one, however i have to say the whole unpleasant thing raises some interesting questions..
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    Old 26-05-2004, 12:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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    So TeePee the digital signature matched up with that one too? Sounds implausible but you may be right, I'll wait until the signature thing is confirmed or denied.

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    Old 26-05-2004, 12:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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    Could also mean that bin laden et al are spreading malicious gossip on the internet.

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    Old 26-05-2004, 01:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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    That is agreed Angus but I have seen the whole video and it is strange to say the least, that was a corpse that the head was sawn off in that video and not a live person, the blood would have gone everywhere if it were from a live bod. Also the tattoos that the alleged Al-Zarqawi has on his hand, they were not there in the video also his prostethic leg.
    I would not dismiss it straight off unless you have seen the whole video, which I have, TeePee seems also to have seen it.

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    Old 26-05-2004, 01:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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    Another question, why would someone in the custody of Arab insurgents have a US prison boiler suit on?

    Or are these suits given to everyone who participates in a moonlanding mock-up?

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    Nope, I haven't seen it, not really my idea of entertainment.
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    Originally Posted by Blub2k
    Another question, why would someone in the custody of Arab insurgents have a US prison boiler suit on?

    Or are these suits given to everyone who participates in a moonlanding mock-up?

    Because the whole point of the killing of berg was in retaliation of the abuse of the prisoners by the allies , hence they gave him the same plastic seat and orange jump suit I would imagine.

    If the pics turn out to be fake it would be the biggest story ever imho, personally I don't believe the us would be so stupid as they have too much to lose if they get found out. Thats not to say its not beyond the realms of possibility.

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    Old 26-05-2004, 01:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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    If this turns out to be true... which im doubting, this could cause one of the biggest political backlashes ever. I hope its not true, its not good for the world.

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    Old 26-05-2004, 01:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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    I did not claim it is true, have a look at the headline, I claim that it is quite possible that it is faked, like I said, if you watch the video, you will see that there is a cut where Berg is sitting up obviously conscious to where he is knocked to the floor (obviously unconscious) just before he is beheaded, this is obvious IF YOU HAVE WATCHED THE VIDEO, which for obvious reasons most people wont. There is worse stuff on Rotten.com.

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    Old 26-05-2004, 01:43 PM   #14 (permalink)
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    nah didnt say you were. ive seen it and there deffo summit dodgy about the way it zooms, blurs and then cuts.

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    Old 26-05-2004, 02:09 PM   #15 (permalink)
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    Can't get to those sites through the company firewall. Could someone outline the main arguments for me? ta

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    Have to agree... Saw the whole vid...

    While it is very disturbing, I too thought the absence of blood was strange. Though I can assure you I wont be watching again to find out
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