New York's Gay School

[spikegifted]

[Note] This is going to go way off topic... [/Note]

I think I'm a pragmatic person so I accept many aspects of modern life-style and modern society as they stand. If I were an idealist, I would've retreated to the mountains and live like a caveman. However, there're certain things within modern society that I've strong views about and sometimes they're contradictory...

For example, I've expressed my view in abortion, however, at the same time, I believe euthanasia should be legalized. Why prolong the pain and suffering when there's absolutely no prospect of a meaningful quality of life and there's no cure of any sort in the foreseeable future? At the same time, we're terminating a life before it draws to its natural conclusion... Believe me when I tell you this: I've a lot of conflict in this subject and it will please me more than anyone else if I can find some kind of position which I'm happy with and at the same time not in conflict with either of these ideals. However, owing to my background (cultural, social, eduction, etc), materials I've come across and my own thought process, these views remain in conflict. I'm not going to tear myself apart for that - there's more to life than that... Nevertheless, it's there.

Do I think abortion is wrong simply because it's what I consider 'unnatural'? Not quite. Except for cases of rape or malfunctioning of the contraceptive, it's a way of escaping personal responsibility - not in the shape of parental responsibility but the responsibility of one's own action - using contraceptives.

Do I think euthanasia is right despite the fact that it is 'unnatural'... Well, again, there's two side of the story. We live in a free world. If the person is rational and capable of making sound decisions, and if the person choose to terminate his/her live because of the advance stages of termainal illness, let it be.

Everything is a balance of other things, ideas, goals, priorities, etc. Somehow, I have these floating around in my head. Much like a fruit machine, through my background, education, etc, I've been wired a certain way and with all the parameters fed, I come up with a certain view of things. It may not be right, but all it require is influence from other areas, the balance will readdress itself and I'd come out with a different view...

[G4Z]

you know im not homophobic, I have had gay friends in the past. I want to state that clearly first ok?

What I dont really like, or I should say the people I dont really wanna hang out with or interact with are the gay people that see being gay as the be all and end all of their personallities. I knew a girl once who was a friend of my g/f, she became a lesbian and that was all fine, what I noticed a few months down the line was that she was becoming a lot more overt with it, and thats fine. At some point tho she started to really focus on it and it became all she was, she wouldnt even go into a straight bar or club, she was only interested in anything if it was gay. and to be honest I find that a little weird that people want to become a sterotype to such extremes that it consumes them. I have had personal experience with several gay people at differing ends of the spectrum. I allways feel that its the ultra-camp ones that give homosexuality the bad reputation that it has with some people.

after all, Im straight but I dont shout about it or wave a gay flag.



ok flame me now...

[Big RICHARD]

Originally posted by G4Z
you know im not homophobic, I have had gay friends in the past. I want to state that clearly first ok?

What I dont really like, or I should say the people I dont really wanna hang out with or interact with are the gay people that see being gay as the be all and end all of their personallities. I knew a girl once who was a friend of my g/f, she became a lesbian and that was all fine, what I noticed a few months down the line was that she was becoming a lot more overt with it, and thats fine. At some point tho she started to really focus on it and it became all she was, she wouldnt even go into a straight bar or club, she was only interested in anything if it was gay. and to be honest I find that a little weird that people want to become a sterotype to such extremes that it consumes them. I have had personal experience with several gay people at differing ends of the spectrum. I allways feel that its the ultra-camp ones that give homosexuality the bad reputation that it has with some people.

after all, Im straight but I dont shout about it or wave a gay flag.



ok flame me now...

I think you provide a very good point.

[G4Z]

cheers mate, Im surprised ppl didnt take that to be a bit offensive. but after meeting many gay peeps these are the conclusions i have come too.

oh and obviously, I would be not waving a straight flag... not a gay one. (if you get my meaning)

[5cupa]

Originally posted by Ravens Nest
The Evening Standard had a similar idea a few yeras ago. The gay Times had suggested that if you were gay shopping in certain shops was 'hetero-hell' & that these shops should be boycotted. The Standard pointed out that if you were straight walking down Old Compton St. in Soho was 'Homo-Hell' & that streaight people should take their business elsewhere.

It seems to me (as a white hetrosexual man in the UK) that that minority & alternative lifestyle groups think that we should accept them and what they have to say without question if we try to voice our opinions we are seen as rascist, homophobic or both.

Every time we try to be ourselves i.e. talk about how we'd like to get hold of a member of the opposite sex or say we have a blackboard at school and sing 'bah bah black sheep', it's frowned upon as sexist or rascist.

It's like you cannot be honest anymore, you have to be careful who you upset, it's like walking through a minefield..

cant have put it better myself

[tonicblue]

Dunno wether its been said before but maybe they should put a couple of the straight bullies into the school to see how they feel about being the socially different ones.

[DaBeeeenster]

Originally posted by tonicblue
Dunno wether its been said before but maybe they should put a couple of the straight bullies into the school to see how they feel about being the socially different ones.

Well said mate well said. An excellent point.