Time for another argument with the PC, Guardian reading, Liberal Democrat voting, salad eating, sandal wearing, 'Give them an all expenses paid trip to Euro Disney and ask them not to do it again', types, I reckon.
Seriously though - this is worthy of discussion I think.
The basic story for anyone who hasn't followed it:
The FA decided to include a DVD with its welcome pack for new members of the 17 greatest England players of all time - in their opinion, or the opinion of the group they appointed to sort out the list.
A short list was drawn up, handed to the people responsible, they selected their 17 favorites, and the DVD was released. No problem, right? Wrong.
No black players were included, which of course, as any self-respecting Guardian reader will tell you, was not because the group of people responsible for choosing the list of players to be included genuinely didn't think that any black player should make the list, oh no, it was of course because they are racist, BNP voting thugs, and action must be taken!
So, rather predictably, the FA, fearful that these PC nutters might flood the Guardians letters page with accusations of institutionalized racism within footballs governing body, they immediately recalled the DVD, apologized, and said they would re-release it with some black players added.
Now - please explain to me how that is going to work? Surely the original list, which showed no bias towards race at all is less racist and insulting than a list that has a few token black players included to keep the Guardian readers happy?
Surly re-releasing it would be insulting, patronizing and a lot less color-blind than keeping the original, and saying 'Irrespective of color, these are, in our opinion the 20 best players, nothing racist about it.'
Why does every public organization seem to run a mile when accused of racism, even if it’s obviously a knee-jerk reaction from a small group of PC cretins?
This is what Rio Ferdinand (Man U defender) had to say about it:
"It's a surprise to me as there would have been several black players on my personal list, such as John Barnes and Ian Wright," the Manchester United player said."
So? I couldn't give a badger’s arse who would have been on your personal list mate, nor Tony Blair’s, nor the surviving members of the cast of Dad's Army. What's your personal list got to do with anything? Surly the point is, if that's the player chosen, then you go with it, not pretend and hint at the fact that there might be some sort of racial reason.
Why should the FA be forced to include a black player, an Asian player, a white player, or any player if they genuinely don't think they deserve to be there? Surly be doing exactly what they did in the first place, and ignoring race (and therefore the fact that the final list had no black players) they acted in an acceptable manner - a lot more acceptable than feeling that they have top re-release it with token black players to keep some people happy.
Rio goes on: (And to be fair to him, seems to make the point that his personal list would differ but the main list shouldn't be changed)
""But players should not be judged on their color, they should only be judged on their ability."
I agree mate. Shame you'd never get away with it, as rather laughably, the sort of people who claim to be tolerant and PC wouldn't let you.
I mean, looking at the list, its not perfect (No Gordon Banks? Are you having a laugh?) but its not as if they have missed Pele off a list of world greats. I mean, the likes of Paul Ince and John Barnes were fine players, but it’s hardly a major shock that they don't get in. Certainly not racist.
Maybe in 5 years time the like of Sol Campbell, Ashley Cole and Rio will be contenders (will be 100% if they keep going the way they are), but to be forced to include them to silence a few PC Guardian readers, and in doing so patronize an entire group of people is tragic. It really is depressing to see the situation the Guardianistas have forced the right-thinking man with a bit of common sense into.
Do we now really live in a society so illogical, that it’s PC to insultingly include a token black football player in a list of this sort, but un PC to ignore race and include who you genuinely think should be? Has PC finally eroded the last shred of common sense from society?
You may think I've mentioned the Guardian a bit too much in this thread, so just for a laugh, I went to the website, to see how they had reported the story. The article made me laugh - textbook snide Lefty 'Oh my God, they must all be racists!' stuff. Next to the article is a picture of 'Mr Average' Paul Ince with the caption 'Ince: Not a good England player, apparently'.
Got to hand it to them, they never miss an opportunity to shout 'racist' when it’s obviously not the case. Mind you, as that is the single tactic of the snide Left, when discussing immigration or any other issue where race can be crowbarred in, its shouldn't come as a suprise really - like monkeys sitting in their own filth, they simply know no better. (The monkeys do have the excuse that they are monkeys though, of course)
Anyway, opinions please. I've provided the link to the BBC Sport coverage of this story, and the snide, predictable attempt by the cess-pit that is the Guardian newspapers attempt to accuse the entire FA of being secret racists.
All I say is, pity the black players who are included on the edited 'PC Nutter Friendly' version. To be included because you have black skin and that is still something that the Guardian readers can not allow to go unseen, and not because of your footballing skill. Truly the ultimate insult to any footballer.
Can you imagine Alan Balls little face if he found out he'd been included because he has a funny voice and ginger hair, and not because he won the world cup? Tragic.
Oh, and if someone wants to make the case for Paul 'Average Midfield Performance' Ince being included on this DVD, please do so, I could do with a laugh. Maybe John Barnes could have scrapped in... I'd be glad to see black players, white players, purple players, anyone. Such a shame that you simply are not allowed to pick what you think are the 17 best if there isn't a black player.
How ironic that the one group of people not prepared to be colorblind on these issues are the same group that laughably claim to be champions of PC and non-racist views. Have to laugh at them really. Actually, point and laugh. I think I'll do it now.
Funny really when I went to the Guardian website, for a few seconds it didn’t hit me, I thought ‘this isn’t that bad’, then inevitably the snide ‘everyone’s a racist really’ message became clear. It was a bit like meeting Hitler, when he’s just getting out of the bath or something, and thinking ‘Well, he’s not that bad a bloke really, he had one of those little yellow ducks that goes 'eek' and he kept lifting one foot then the other off the floor to stop them getting cold’, but within a few minutes, he’s dressed and giving a speech and you go… ‘Ah, fair enough, I see now’.
Ah well, debate is pointless now (from a football point of view) as the PC nutters have spoken once again.
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...399964,00.html ( )