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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    If you already have a 280X I wouldn't really recommend replacing it with a 760 - unless you have another home for the 280X. The 280X is hands-down the better card, it probably only consumes about 30W more. A 760 will definitely munch more than a 7870 which barely even needs the second 6-pin (as evidenced by the R9 270).
    If you're looking at a 250D then you really have nothing to worry about. People run Titans in the SG05, and the ventilation on that is hardly perfect for high end cards.

    If you have atleast a couple of intakes, or a couple of exhausts then the air moving through your case should be able to carry out an extra 30-50W with very little effort.

    ---Engage annoying Physics pedant mode---
    Please capitalise 'Watts'. The dude deserves the respect

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    You are obsessing a bit too much over the power consumption of your graphics card and its cooling.

    The mini-ITX Steam Boxes demoed by Valve were using that Silverstone 450W PSU I linked to running a Core i7 4770 and a Geforce Titan.

    Shuttle systems with a 500W flexATX PSU are running GTX780 cards fine.

    The GTX760 is a big downgrade over a R9 280X.

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    Hmm true, maybe I am looking too much into the numbers and less into the actual reality. If a Silverstone 450W can handle that then I am golden.

    Well, everything maxed out my system hits 500 Watts (capital W at the wall), but that is with a 1090T.


    My 3770 + 7870 munched on 235W at the wall. So I take it it should be more like near 300W?


    Actually that isn't bad


    Thanks for clearing that up.
    "If at first you don't succeed; call it version 1.0" ||| "I'm not interrupting you, I'm putting our conversation in full-duplex mode" ||| "The problem with UDP joke: I don't get half of them"
    "I’d tell you the one about the CIDR block, but you’re too classy" ||| "There’s no place like 127.0.0.1" ||| "I made an NTP joke once. The timing was perfect."
    "In high society, TCP is more welcome than UDP. At least it knows a proper handshake."

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    Just remember if you overclock you do increase the load, even if you don't increase the volts you still pull more amps which is why a good VRM is important

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    I'll shoot for the Xeon we shall go for the B85 chipset!

    Hopefully get some good discounts using Flubit

    So it now is:
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    Be Quiet Pure Power L8 Bronze 530W (HEC + 3 year warranty)
    Last edited by mikeo01; 02-05-2014 at 01:46 PM.
    "If at first you don't succeed; call it version 1.0" ||| "I'm not interrupting you, I'm putting our conversation in full-duplex mode" ||| "The problem with UDP joke: I don't get half of them"
    "I’d tell you the one about the CIDR block, but you’re too classy" ||| "There’s no place like 127.0.0.1" ||| "I made an NTP joke once. The timing was perfect."
    "In high society, TCP is more welcome than UDP. At least it knows a proper handshake."

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    UPDATE:
    Tiny gamer changer.

    I7-4770 or £-5 for the 4770S. The 4770K is £20 more however (nahh).

    Their shipping is £2.50 and I have used them before 12 months warranty with everything.

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    "If at first you don't succeed; call it version 1.0" ||| "I'm not interrupting you, I'm putting our conversation in full-duplex mode" ||| "The problem with UDP joke: I don't get half of them"
    "I’d tell you the one about the CIDR block, but you’re too classy" ||| "There’s no place like 127.0.0.1" ||| "I made an NTP joke once. The timing was perfect."
    "In high society, TCP is more welcome than UDP. At least it knows a proper handshake."

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    In a 250D with an AIO, you have plenty enough cooling for a 84W chip, so unless you particularly desire the lower TDP you may as well get the full chip IMHO.

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    That's me being a cheapskate, trying to save £5 ha. Cheaper than the 1230V3 too
    "If at first you don't succeed; call it version 1.0" ||| "I'm not interrupting you, I'm putting our conversation in full-duplex mode" ||| "The problem with UDP joke: I don't get half of them"
    "I’d tell you the one about the CIDR block, but you’re too classy" ||| "There’s no place like 127.0.0.1" ||| "I made an NTP joke once. The timing was perfect."
    "In high society, TCP is more welcome than UDP. At least it knows a proper handshake."

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    Oh I know that feeling... Just don't go regretting that £5 later... I did, certainly ended up costing me more sorting it out

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    Just bagged a New Xeon 1230 V3 for £143 (£13 of it is postage and fees, Buy/seller protection).

    ... Thatttsss if it isn't another Gumtree scam shouldn't be, registered company (PCPUK) etc.

    Couldn't resist posting this update; see if my goodies turn up shall we
    "If at first you don't succeed; call it version 1.0" ||| "I'm not interrupting you, I'm putting our conversation in full-duplex mode" ||| "The problem with UDP joke: I don't get half of them"
    "I’d tell you the one about the CIDR block, but you’re too classy" ||| "There’s no place like 127.0.0.1" ||| "I made an NTP joke once. The timing was perfect."
    "In high society, TCP is more welcome than UDP. At least it knows a proper handshake."

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    Ordered Parts:
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    MSI B85i (Z87i comes with Sound Blaster Cinema (software) and a Wi-Fi N, not worth the extra £30).
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    Last thing to order is that 250D although waiting as Amazon had a great deal on it not long ago (save some £££).

    I'll update this to a build log, start seeing things after the 9th (busy stuff going on up until then).

    The boll is rolling
    "If at first you don't succeed; call it version 1.0" ||| "I'm not interrupting you, I'm putting our conversation in full-duplex mode" ||| "The problem with UDP joke: I don't get half of them"
    "I’d tell you the one about the CIDR block, but you’re too classy" ||| "There’s no place like 127.0.0.1" ||| "I made an NTP joke once. The timing was perfect."
    "In high society, TCP is more welcome than UDP. At least it knows a proper handshake."

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    Oh hello look what just turned up Xeon 1230V3
    "If at first you don't succeed; call it version 1.0" ||| "I'm not interrupting you, I'm putting our conversation in full-duplex mode" ||| "The problem with UDP joke: I don't get half of them"
    "I’d tell you the one about the CIDR block, but you’re too classy" ||| "There’s no place like 127.0.0.1" ||| "I made an NTP joke once. The timing was perfect."
    "In high society, TCP is more welcome than UDP. At least it knows a proper handshake."

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    I assume it was sold as open-box - if not I'd be sending it back I take it the right processor is in there, and they haven't fobbed you off by packing a Celeron in a Xeon box...?

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    Ha yeah open box, the Xeon is in there

    Just awaiting Intels warranty section to come back on line so I can check the FPO
    Fortunately I've got buyer protection with PayPal in case things did go horribly wrong (learned my mistakes last time)

    UPDATE: Yerp all is fine. Product FPO is valid
    Last edited by mikeo01; 06-05-2014 at 02:19 PM.
    "If at first you don't succeed; call it version 1.0" ||| "I'm not interrupting you, I'm putting our conversation in full-duplex mode" ||| "The problem with UDP joke: I don't get half of them"
    "I’d tell you the one about the CIDR block, but you’re too classy" ||| "There’s no place like 127.0.0.1" ||| "I made an NTP joke once. The timing was perfect."
    "In high society, TCP is more welcome than UDP. At least it knows a proper handshake."

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    Re: Advise - Road to SFCs

    Update:
    AH flippers. Good job Dabs didn't dispatch that board, it only has 3 audio ports. Good job cancelling it was easy enough.

    New board update: MSI B85i Gaming mITX
    "If at first you don't succeed; call it version 1.0" ||| "I'm not interrupting you, I'm putting our conversation in full-duplex mode" ||| "The problem with UDP joke: I don't get half of them"
    "I’d tell you the one about the CIDR block, but you’re too classy" ||| "There’s no place like 127.0.0.1" ||| "I made an NTP joke once. The timing was perfect."
    "In high society, TCP is more welcome than UDP. At least it knows a proper handshake."

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    Re: [Build] Corsair 250D

    Start of Build log

    Current Items - So you know this is still active

    Intel Xeon 1230V3
    Coolermaster VS450W Gold
    Corsair H75
    Sharkoon Shark Blade 120MM X2





    Just a peek at the fans - I have tried them out and I can gather 2 things. I tested it out by placing the fans onto the H75 radiator and giving myself an idea of how much air is coming through. I did this with the AF120mm too (54CFM @ 2.8 mmH20)

    1) They definitely have good static pressure considering they only push 33 CFM.
    2) Stupidly quiet, 1000RPM. They could easily be ran straight from the PSU.

    I'll be testing these things out when the H75 is installed by using the stock AF120 Corsair fan and then these fans. So take the specs with a grain of salt.

    They do look wonderful though, I will show them spinning soon enough

    More to come soon enough....
    "If at first you don't succeed; call it version 1.0" ||| "I'm not interrupting you, I'm putting our conversation in full-duplex mode" ||| "The problem with UDP joke: I don't get half of them"
    "I’d tell you the one about the CIDR block, but you’re too classy" ||| "There’s no place like 127.0.0.1" ||| "I made an NTP joke once. The timing was perfect."
    "In high society, TCP is more welcome than UDP. At least it knows a proper handshake."

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