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    Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    Hello guys,

    Its my first post on this forum i would like some advice on the parts i choose for my new build. The things i would do with the build are: OC/gaming/3D works e.g Maya/Photoshop/VideoEditing.
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    Intel Core i7 5930K Haswell-E
    Asus RAMPAGE V EXTREME
    Gigabyte GTX 750Ti OC 2GB (For now until 980 comes out and use this as a dedicated PhysX card)
    Samsung 256GB 850 PRO SSD (For OS and programs)
    Western Digital 1TB Black Hard Drive (Storage)
    G.Skill Ripjaws 4 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-21300C15 2666MHz
    1050W Seasonic Full Modular
    Phanteks Enthoo Primo

    Looking forward on your advice

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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    How much of everything are you going to be doing? It's a bit unbalanced as a system really, as you've got a £400+ CPU (I think - not seen the price) paired with a ~£120 GPU. Most people won't need the 840 Pro unless you're crunching heavy numbers.

    You'd be surprised at how well a 4790K would perform paired with a 780 in both gaming and 3D works if you're using adobe software (or anything that supports cuda acceleration). Fewer cores but higher clocked actually offers greater performance in games at the moment which is strange (but expected when you think about it).

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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRockliffe View Post
    How much of everything are you going to be doing? It's a bit unbalanced as a system really, as you've got a £400+ CPU (I think - not seen the price) paired with a ~£120 GPU. Most people won't need the 840 Pro unless you're crunching heavy numbers.

    You'd be surprised at how well a 4790K would perform paired with a 780 in both gaming and 3D works if you're using adobe software (or anything that supports cuda acceleration). Fewer cores but higher clocked actually offers greater performance in games at the moment which is strange (but expected when you think about it).
    I prob do more 3d work/photo edit, etc (started to get back into it again as a hobby), then gaming second.
    The 750ti is just a temporary solution until the new 880/990 cards comes out later.
    The 850 pro i chose due to the reviews i read that said they were quite reliable and has a 5 year warranty, just a peace of mind, but what other SSD would you recommend?
    Does the 4790k render as fast as the 6 core? A friend told me the 6 core better choice for rendering video

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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    It is, but a 12 core xeon is quicker. It's all relative, and as a hobby there's no point spending that much money on a CPU. There are loads of good SSDs on the market, loads of which are really good. The 840 EVO performs really well and being Samsung it has great MTBF. When I'm on my computer I'll spec out a more reasonable build. Plus you don't need anywhere near a 1000W power supply
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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRockliffe View Post
    Plus you don't need anywhere near a 1000W power supply
    ^ this
    I wish I could afford the luxury of DDR4 ram and a haswell-e processor
    I mean you can get those components if you want but it seems a bit of a waste of money at the moment.
    If you can afford to spend truckloads of money on the processor, why don't you splash out on a GTX 780ti or if you want a similar priced pc get something like an i5 4690k, or if you want i7 a 4770k paired with an R9 290x/gtx 780
    just a few thoughts of mine

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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    I would think very carefully as to whether you really need the four extra threads that the 5930K will give you, over the 4970K. Going to a Haswell-E platform is going to cost considerably more than 1150 Haswell, & given that the 5930K turbos up to 3.7Ghz compared to the 4.4Ghz of the 4790K, the differences in performance might not be all that much, depending on the software you plan to use. I assume you plan to overclock too? You also need to bear in mind that the 5930K is a 140W TDP processor at stock speed, so you'll need a fairly hefty cooler to remove the extra heat it will generate.

    The Samsung 850 Pro actually has a 10 year warranty, but also carries the caveat of write allowance too (I forget how many gigabytes per day). So depending on how much you thrash it, the warranty might not last all that time. It's also quite expensive; the Crucial MX100 is much better value, and its performance is pretty good in the higher capacity versions.

    Do you plan to play PC games? I'm just curious as to whether you want a dedicated PhysX card for games, or development work?

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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    So what kind of spec you guys would recommend then?
    The parts I would like to keep the same are the Phanteks Enthoo Primo (I like the look), at least 16GB RAM, SSD for OS/Software and HDD for storage, (prefer X99 platform). Budget £1500-2000. I'm just really bad at putting together a system (purchasing ASAP). Thanks
    Last edited by REDALiCE; 06-09-2014 at 08:17 AM.

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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbobgod1969 View Post
    Do you plan to play PC games? I'm just curious as to whether you want a dedicated PhysX card for games, or development work?
    Was thinking of using it for games.

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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    If you are using it for games and the 3D stuff, I'm fairly certain an i7-4790k would be good enough for both, for the reasons stated by jimbo
    Waiting for the new gfx cards is also a waste of time because they always start of very expensive, and end up dropping in price after a year. So I recommend getting a GTX 780 or if you want to blow the budget, a 780ti
    There's a fair amount of RAM to choose from such as corsair, the vengeance line is fairly good, but I'm not that well informed on RAM.
    The SSD and such will work
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-...xecaAsz28P8HAQ
    This Mobo supports everything
    This build is using the old chipset and would cost a fair amount less than your current suggested build, plus its more balanced.

    Your budget is fairly large though so if you really want to go for the new stuff you can, if you can afford it.
    So the slightly adjusted version of your system would be
    Intel Core i7 5930K Haswell-E
    Asus RAMPAGE V EXTREME
    Gigabyte GTX 780/780ti
    Samsung 256GB 850 PRO SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Black Hard Drive
    G.Skill Ripjaws 4 16GB (4x4GB) DDR4 PC4-21300C15 2666MHz
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-...an-atx-v24-psu or
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-...an-atx-v24-psu
    Not entierly sure on the power requirements on the new stuff, but I'm sure 750 is more than enough. Maybe even 650, not sure on that one. But 1000w is not needed
    Phanteks Enthoo Primo

    That second pc is very expensive but using the new chipset
    Not been much help but its the best I can think of

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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    You should also bear in mind that a lot of 3D rendering & photo editing software can offload work to a GPU, so depending on the software you use, you might find your choice of GPU to be as important as your choice of CPU. With your budget you could certainly get a 5930K based system, but if it were my money, I think I'd go with a 4970K system, simply based on performance / pound.

    You might like to check out the Anandtech benchmark comparison page, & see how the 5930K & the 4970K compare in the various multi-threaded benchmarks as a guide to which will best suit your needs:

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/39

    I'm not convinced that it's worth having a dedicated PhysX card myself. As far as I know, there aren't all that many games which support it, & in those that do, I don't think it has an 'earth-shattering' impact on the visuals. As far as choice of GPU is concerned, although the NVidia 900 series is due to be announced shortly, I don't know how quickly they'll become available in retail, or at what price. Given that they're based on the same 28mn process as current GPUs, I doubt their performance will blow-away current cards either. My guess (and that's all it is) is they'll be 10-15% faster at best.
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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    I know you like the Enthoo Primo, but it's a huge case and it'd look stupid with air cooling. Even my mid tower case looks stupid with a single GPU and a watercooler.

    Here's what I came up with that's a bit more sensible: http://prntscr.com/4k6p2h

    If you want to add more of anything (another hard drive for RAID) you can do so without going over budget. May not be your favourite case, but I went with it because of watercooling options (GPU and CPU watercooling - X40 for GPU with the bracket and X60 for CPU).

    I thought you might benefit from 16GB of high speed memory for video editing. 780 will perform admirably, even at 1440p (which I suggest you use).

    EDIT: 650W is too much I know, but it'll keep things quiet. You could up it to 850W and have enough room to SLI 780s.
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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbobgod1969 View Post
    You might like to check out the Anandtech benchmark comparison page, & see how the 5930K & the 4970K compare in the various multi-threaded benchmarks as a guide to which will best suit your needs:

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/39
    The benchmark of the 5930k about 5% faster compared to the 4970k, think I will go with the 4970k.

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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    Here the revised build from taking feedback off you guys.

    Intel Core i7-4790K £251.00
    Asus MAXIMUS VII RANGER £124.76
    Samsung 500GB 840 EVO £175.01
    Gigabyte GTX780 WINDFORCE 3 £333.46 x2
    Corsair Memory Vengeance Performance 16GB DDR3 1866 MHz £124.99
    Corsair RM Series 750W 70+ Gold £89.70
    Western Digital 2TB Black Hard Drive £101.80 x2
    NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case Matte Black with Red Trim with Side Window £94.13

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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by REDALiCE View Post
    Here the revised build from taking feedback off you guys.

    Intel Core i7-4790K £251.00
    Asus MAXIMUS VII RANGER £124.76
    Samsung 500GB 840 EVO £175.01
    Gigabyte GTX780 WINDFORCE 3 £333.46 x2
    Corsair Memory Vengeance Performance 16GB DDR3 1866 MHz £124.99
    Corsair RM Series 750W 70+ Gold £89.70
    Western Digital 2TB Black Hard Drive £101.80 x2
    NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case Matte Black with Red Trim with Side Window £94.13
    I'd go for 850w and an EVGA power supply - help reduce noise under load and with EVGAs supernova range you get nice sleeved cables.

    As you've got the money, go with hydro cooling - a dual 120/140mm cooler for the CPU and a 140mm cooler for the gpu. I'd go for a 780 Ti over 2 780s. Not as good performance (supposedly) but as a rule of thumb single card is better than two. You could even get a 295x2 for 699.95
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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    Looks like a build with a lot more sense (as more sense that money).

    The 750W PSU is still too powerful for this build.

    Can't see an advanced cooling solution (other that the assumed Intel Stock Cooler).

    Wouldn't be more appealing to have 4x HDDs in RAID 10 for the same price? The cheapest 7200RPM 3.5" Seagates and Toshibas would just fit into the same budget.

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    Re: Is this mid/high end PC build ok?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonebreaker777 View Post
    Looks like a build with a lot more sense (as more sense that money).

    The 750W PSU is still too powerful for this build.

    Can't see an advanced cooling solution (other that the assumed Intel Stock Cooler).

    Wouldn't be more appealing to have 4x HDDs in RAID 10 for the same price? The cheapest 7200RPM 3.5" Seagates and Toshibas would just fit into the same budget.
    He is SLI-ing 2 GTX 780s...I personally think 750W is okay, it gives him some room for expansion if he upgrades to more power-hungry cards further down the line. I wouldn't got for Corsair RM though, I'd go for either a Seasonic or Seasonic OEM PSU.

    I would go for an AIO water cooler I think, with overclocking in mind.

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