Hmm I could stretch to it. I was looking at the 1231 and decided it wasn't worth it but the non 1230 is a fair bit cheaper right now.
Ideally not, the other one I was looking at could be had for less. My experience on the stock cooler is that it's kinda loud.. That said, I could go for the aforementioned Xeon and ditch the cooler for roughly the same cost.
Both the 7 and 11 come in low profile versions. http://www.amazon.co.uk/FREEZER-flue...rds=freezer+11
True,
The more I look in to the ultra sff cases the more I am put off by limitations, increased costs and general awkwardness.
The TJ08e is quite tall in comparison but footprint wise is just as useful, will be far easier to manage and build options are increased by having less limitations.
So my latest revision is:
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/wczMmG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/wczMmG/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£149.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: Silverstone AR01 81.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£26.05)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£68.40 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£56.83 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£149.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Silverstone TJ08B-E MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£64.90 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£48.99)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-209DBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer (£54.62 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£72.97 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £692.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-03 16:51 GMT+0000
+ video card, monitor, mouse/kb (I can buy cheap for now).
I'm fairly content with this.
I think I will pass on the Xeon, I think I value the saved money and potentially handy IGP over the performance for now.
I could go for a cheaper cooler, this appears to be exactly what I'm looking for, though.
PSU is chosen as it looks to be good quality, semi modular and shallower than normal, which will help. The 550w can be had for an extra £10 or so, which might be useful as apparently the fan noise starts to ramp up a bit at load, so more headroom might help.
Trying to stick to Scan and Amazon here, would need a significant saving to add another retailer to the list. There's a high probability of saving a few quid on Scan Today Only anyway.
If going via Amazon,try to take advantage of Flubit.
OK turns out that's just the name of their internal seller. Still, I'd rather try it out on some smaller items first, not things which have genuine possibility of return.
So almost there, saving some intervention.
PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Wjt8zy
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Wjt8zy/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor (£149.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: Silverstone AR01 81.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£26.05) (scan)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£68.40 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£56.83 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£149.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Silverstone TJ08B-E MicroATX Mini Tower Case (£64.90 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£59.99) (scan/amazon)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDC-207DBK Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer (£39.42 @ Scan.co.uk)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£72.97 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £688.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-11-05 12:59 GMT+0000
CPU I think is ok, I think. Xeon is on the table still, but would have to buy GPU. 970 for < £280 witha free game may be worth it in the long run, in the sense that I wouldn't have to upgrade for yonks
Cooler could be cheaper but I like the white/blue look...
Motherboard - Alternatives are the asus h97m plus and the z97 version of this, which would enable overclocking and faster ram, if I had.. but I don't... Amazon have it £4 cheaper but prefer to buy cpu and mobo from Scan
Cheap and cheerful Crucial low voltage RAM, single stick and can add another later if I want. Would prefer to buy this from scan, too, but they seem to be almost exclusively Corsair.
Hard to beat this SSD
Settled on this case
PSU seems like a reasonable deal, shorter length helps. (550 over 450 as latter has very few connections). Flat cables included is a nice touch.
Dropped to blu-ray reader. I have a writer I could swap for if I needed.
Windows.. is windows
I also found a cherry media keyboard and gigabyte mouse to go with for ~£25.
Settled on the Dell monitor, need to chose a vendor (Amazon out of stock), doesn't need to come with other stuff, can wait a little.
GPU I think I need to wait for pay day, though if a bargain pops along before I can go for it. I'm thinking 970 but a super cheap 280/290/760/770 could sway me before then.
Last edited by krazy_olie; 05-11-2014 at 05:39 PM.
So get the cheaper AR02, exact same colour scheme and can easily cool your CPU.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/silve...m2-am3-fm1-fm2
I'd consider the cheaper H81, same Gigabyte quality, same performance, you can attach fewer disks etc, but this isn't exactly a file server.
(link for comparison purposes only, I'd buy whichever you choose from Scan)
http://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Prod...24%24%24%24%24
I bought mine here:
http://www.ballicom.co.uk/860bbec-de....p1089399.html
I know the lack of picture is disturbing, but they were very professional on the phone, the price is great and their free delivery turned up in less than 24 hours.
I checked the tracking info the next morning and was amazed to see it had already been delivered!
krazy_olie (06-11-2014)
dammit, massively overspent by buying up discounted items on OCUK.
So my OTT system will be
Asus rog impact vii z97 +4790k. This was a significantly discounted bundle so I haven't really paid extra for the ROG board over other z97 (I wouldn't normally buy a ROG board). On the plus side that particular board has a unique layout which will make it a touch easier to work in, respectable inbuilt sound card (useful until I find a replacement for my broken FIIO), some potentially useful fan features etc, m2...
Don't expect to see much gain from the i7 over i5 but my hope is that it will last longer before it becomes any kind of bottleneck, will speed up things like creating mp3 of entire music library, for example.
16GB, again no benefit now, perhaps when I'm running multiple instances of Visual studio it will be. This wasn't a bank breaker, though.
Plonked for the rvz01, in my current room this saves me a lot of space as I can fit it under my desk, the annoying thing is the additional power supply cost and very limited optical support. Scan had a decent price on the OEM blu-ray drive but it's been delayed so had to drop it, will have to create a windows install USB for now, I guess. The ml07 was only a few quid cheaper and I didn't like the fake aluminium look and it doesn't come with case fans or dust filters.
GPU is a Galax 970, was close to going for a 290 but in that small case having a cooler card.
So rather above what I need for now but on the flipside I've got a fair bit of longevity in there and won't have much reason to tinker a good while.
For a similar price I could have gone to a 980 if I'd trimmed down on the other stuff but my thinking is that it's got more than enough grunt as it is and will do a GPU switch when 4k becomes significantly relevant in a few years.
if you have a spare SATA optical drive around you could always leave the case siode panel off, install windows from that, then just disconnect it once Windows is installed - that's how I sorted my last install in a no-Op case (actually, from memory I stuck a spare sata cable out of a hole in the case then shoved it back through when I was done, but same priniciple ).
Of Course! why didn't I think of that? thanks. Have a dvd drive lying around... somewhere. which should do the job fine. If I can't find it I can still rip one out. Remembered I did something similar with exactly the same drive when I wanted to write dvds from a PC that was only DVD read.
Will want a blu ray eventually but far from urgent, I'll keep my eyes out for a nice deal on an external or compatible slot drive.
All getting delivered today, may get to build it on Sunday. Quite looking to activating the included Far Cry 4 and running it at full whack.
Apparently both the scan and OCUK deliveries came together from DPD.
Last edited by krazy_olie; 04-12-2014 at 04:38 PM.
Turned out the drive I had lying around was IDE so had to rip out the sata blu ray I had replaced it with.
Only had time to install windows but seemed to go ok.
The build ended up being;
Silverstone RVZ01
"" 600w sfx
Asus maximus impact vii
4790k with AR06 cooler
Galax 970 black edition
16gb Hyperx savage
512gb MX100 ssd
At idle the Cpu and GPU appear to be silent but only had time to install windows. Seemed to idle at room temperature which is a good sign.
Getting that cooler in was awkward and required some wriggling as the ends of the heat pipes (one was a tiny bit longer causing issue) were so close to the power daughter-board.
Overall a much more challenging build than most. Hopefully future cases like this will have more in the way of thumbsrews and latches etc to make like easier
Some issues with the case, the magnetic fan filters are not great, one is distinctly bent and doesn't sit nicely and the case fan facing the GPU appears to be faulty. Will post on the scan board and see what they say, I was probably going to take it out anyway but still not ideal. Hopefully I can get a replacement fan and maybe grills without too much hassle.
How the windows install looked like..
2014-12-07-1661 by krazy-olie, on Flickr
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