Another Week - Another Delayed Order Notification

&roo · 20-11-2007, 08:52 PM

I'm getting really fed up with Scan! I made an order last week for delivery last Wednesday and got the dreaded "Delayed Order Notification" on Tuesday night so had to cancel the order. Made another order over the weekend for delivery Tomorrow (Wed 21 Nov) and have just had another "Delayed Order Notification". How when they accept the order and take payment early on Monday morning they cannot get the goods out of the door by Tuesday evening really beats me. It seems to me that Scan don't care or want people's business.

I've dealt with Scan since the days they were in a small building in Farnworth and we used to buy the Computer Mart on Thursday and dash over from the Chester area to get bits in our 2 hour flexi lunch break. I've introduced many friends to them and defended Scan on many occasions when people have had small problems. I think this is the end of the line for me with Scan.

I'll be cancelling my order again tomorrow and going elsewhere unless they are prepared to upgrade my delivery to before 9AM on Thursday FOC. Last time they let me down and I cancelled, I drove over to Micro Direct to get the bits I needed and I met several people in the queue who were disaffected Scan customers.

Andy

Disturbedguy · 20-11-2007, 09:24 PM

Delays happen, its all part of being a succesfull business.

The problems have been covered in numerous threads already on these forums.

To say SCAN dont care or want peoples business is wrong imo, if they didnt care or want peoples business, they wouldnt be on these forums offer FREE support and wouldnt offer FREE CARRIAGE to members of these forums who meet the rules they have set.

SCAN do there best to please everyone but, like everything, it is always possible to please each and every individual person.

**ChrisP** · 20-11-2007, 09:47 PM

&roo

I apologies if your order has been delayed.

Our service levels shown clearly online and on every automated status update e-mail confirm our dispatch dates as estimated. Your order was delayed to a volume of orders and we did e-mail you to inform you of the delay precisely to prevent disappointment... I would ask you to respect the picking dept who ships hundreds of orders per day.

I Understand you have requested your order to be upgraded to pre 9am delivery free of charge, unfortunately this is not feasible as you have not paid for a guaranteed service, I would understand if you had paid for a next day delivery but you have not.

In fact the only service we do guarantee would be a Saturday delivery, if you had paid for this service level then we would of course refund the extra carriage paid for the Saturday delivery as we feel it only fair to refund a customer for a service level they have paid for but not received.

To say we do not care is unfair, do you really believe this is true ?

We DO understand the importance of timely deliveries and for your information we are in fact going through big changes at the moment so we can resume the service once offered of shipping same day

Improvements / Expansions

If you can PM me your invoice number we can either ship tomorrow for delivery Thursday 22nd to an alternative address if this would be more convenient or if you still wish to do so cancel your order.

I truly hope your faith has not been dented beyond repair as we certainly do not wish to lose you as a customer. Our growth and development over the past 20 years has been largely due to return business from long-standing customers, who are all greatly appreciated. Thank you for taking the time out to email us and please rest assured that your comments have been read, understood and are being acted upon already in the background.

Best Regards

sammie377 · 20-11-2007, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Disturbedguy

Delays happen, its all part of being a succesfull business. Really?

The problems have been covered in numerous threads already on these forums. Agreed

To say SCAN dont care or want peoples business is wrong imo, if they didnt care or want peoples business, they wouldnt be on these forums offer FREE support and wouldnt offer FREE CARRIAGE to members of these forums who meet the rules they have set.

SCAN do there best to please everyone but, like everything, it is always possible to please each and every individual person.

We all know it's difficult meeting deadlines but imo something should be done there are too many of these threads.

da_ging · 20-11-2007, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisP

I apologies if your order has been delayed.

Our service levels shown clearly online and on every automated status update e-mail confirm our dispatch dates as estimated.

We DO understand the importance of timely deliveries and for your information we are in fact going through big changes at the moment so we can resume the service once offered of shipping same day

Improvements / Expansions

Best Regards

estimated or not , if you fail to meet that date you will annoy the customer thats a fact, perhaps an ebuyer style "within 5 working days" delivery aim for the free carriage ones would be better and a higher priority for paid delivery orders

last post in the thread you linked to - 06-03-2007, and all i've seen in the past year is a worsening of service (stock is it in or out of and delays) in the last year so an update as to what is happening/going to happen would be good

YorkieBen · 20-11-2007, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by da_ging

estimated or not , if you fail to meet that date you will annoy the customer thats a fact, perhaps an ebuyer style "within 5 working days" delivery aim for the free carriage ones would be better and a higher priority for paid delivery orders

last post in the thread you linked to - 06-03-2007, and all i've seen in the past year is a worsening of service (stock is it in or out of and delays) in the last year so an update as to what is happening/going to happen would be good

thats a fair point - scan have been saying that the move to a new warehouse all year and the problem seems to be getting worse (going by posts on the forum - not scientific I know but it doesn't seem to be random trolls complaining)

**ChrisP** · 20-11-2007, 10:29 PM

da_ging

Of course delayed order's are annoying I agree ... we are under no illusion of this but too be fair we keep customer fully up to date at every stage of their order, I would agree if we took payment and left the customer with no progress updates but we do not.

The service certainly is not worsening, you haven't seen this sorry but that is not true!, what is the bases of this conclusion a handful of negative threads through this forum.....?, we do not just ship order to Hexus customer's ...we ship thousands of orders on time every day and the number of delayed orders are still isolated. The isolated delays, which do occur % 99 of the time are 1 day delay's..

How about I post every single time an order ships on time and every time an order is delayed, it will be like finding a needle in a haystack to find the delayed threads.

I agree the sticky has not been updated regularly enough so this is something we will resolve to update everyone on the progress we have made so far and the continued changes & expansions we have put are putting in place to ensure we keep moving in the right direction and can provide an even better service.

Lucio · 20-11-2007, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisP

da_ging
How about I post every single time an order ships on time and every time an order is delayed, it will be like finding a needle in a haystack to find the delayed threads.

Maybe that's not such a bad idea, or some kind of graphical representation on your site showing current service levels (or historical service levels minus key dates so as not to sway current consumer purchasing trends?)

sammie377 · 20-11-2007, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisP

da_ging

Of course delayed order's are annoying I agree ... we are under no illusion of this but too be fair we keep customer fully up to date at every stage of their order, I would agree if we took payment and left the customer with no progress updates but we do not.

The service certainly is not worsening, you haven't seen this sorry but that is not true!, what is the bases of this conclusion a handful of negative threads through this forum.....?, we do not just ship order to Hexus customer's ...we ship thousands of orders on time every day and the number of delayed orders are still isolated. The isolated delays, which do occur % 99 of the time are 1 day delay's..

How about I post every single time an order ships on time and every time an order is delayed, it will be like finding a needle in a haystack to find the delayed threads.

I agree the sticky has not been updated regularly enough so this is something we will resolve to update everyone on the progress we have made so far and the continued changes & expansions we have put are putting in place to ensure we keep moving in the right direction and can provide an even better service.

That seems fair

&roo · 20-11-2007, 11:15 PM

ChrisP

I appreciate that most if not all mail order businesses deliver on a 'best endeavours' basis but in reality every other firm I've dealt with invariably deliver on the next or agreed day. To me, and I'd imagine to many other people, one important aspect when ordering for home delivery is arranging for goods to be delivered on a day when someone is in to take delivery. Emailing to tell me that you have failed to meet your estimated dispatch time is little consolation.

I am still very disappointed that I placed an order on Sunday which you acknowledge and took payment for Monday AM and you cannot get it dispatched be 8PM Tuesday. I'm particularly peeved as this is the second order in a row that has been delayed. When I cancelled the order last week I received an email that apologised and said "We hope you come back to us again and give us another chance", well I gave you another chance and look what happened! I'd certainly be interested to know how many of the orders that were placed AFTER mine were dispatched on the estimated date - maybe it's me you don't like.

Your comments about the changes your business is going through must be wearing a bit thin with many customers by now, your initial post was in January and your posted again in March indicating that things were improving. It's now November and based on my own experience and other posts in this forum you still have problems - Scan is certainly far from the firm it once was. Maybe you should update your Improvements/Expansions thread.

I'm afraid that my faith in Scan has been dented to the extent that I'll be looking elsewhere. If Scan were prepared to upgrade the service they pay City Link for to 'next day before 9AM' rather than 'next day' I'd believe they cared but it seems to be very much 'take it or leave it' from where I am. I suspect that these failures are not as isolated as you'd like us to believe and you don't want to set a precedent.

If I cannot arrange for someone to be in on Thursday, I'll cancel direct to CS in the morning.

Andy

Disturbedguy · 21-11-2007, 12:07 AM

Chris has explained - "I Understand you have requested your order to be upgraded to pre 9am delivery free of charge, unfortunately this is not feasible as you have not paid for a guaranteed service, I would understand if you had paid for a next day delivery but you have not.

In fact the only service we do guarantee would be a Saturday delivery, if you had paid for this service level then we would of course refund the extra carriage paid for the Saturday delivery as we feel it only fair to refund a customer for a service level they have paid for but not received."

You didnt pay for a next day delivery and as stated the dates are estimates.

I think that maybe everyone who has good experiences with SCAN should post it, im pretty sure it would out weigh the number of negatives.

"We all know it's difficult meeting deadlines but imo something should be done there are too many of these threads." - There are too many of these threads because people are all to quick to post negative things about SCAN and when people do recieve good service, most dont post.

Am probably going to get called a fan boy etc etc now or whatever but i dont care, people are too quick to jump on the "things are bad" bandwagon but when something is going good for people maybe 1 out of 5 will post when they have had good experiences where as others dont.

I can understand customers getting annoyed if they paid for a specific delivery date, like a saturday but the item didnt arrive, if your going to go for the standard service and go for the estimated delivery date, then i think you have to expect delays.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 21-11-2007, 12:17 AM

Meh -the order I placed on Sunday is also delayed for an unknown period of time.Luckily I am not in a massive hurry although delivery this week would be nice. I hope the PSU on my mates computers does not go bang in the mean time!
My last order from Scan was despatched within 24 hours so I suppose they are just busy at the moment.
An indication of how long the order would be delayed would be very useful though!

Koolpc · 21-11-2007, 01:54 AM

It is annoying to get a delayed order etc. I have had that myself but to be fair Scan are the best at keeping us informed and are trying to rectify the problem. It would be a good idea to have stock figures by each item and an instant reduction once one has been sold. I suppose this is something they are working on?