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    News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    The website claims to have doubled its traffic since 2011 with the US being its largest source.
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    Re: News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    It's a double edged blade, imagine the amount of people who had no idea what TPB/torrenting/proxying was before these bans came out and got plastered everywhere and then the amount of people now who got curious and are aware.

    As long as you and another entity are connected to the internet, it's going to be extremely hard to stop all potential levels of access.

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    Re: News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    Streisand effect in action.

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    Re: News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    I am surprised 91% of people access TPB directly!

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    Re: News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabbykatze View Post
    It's a double edged blade, imagine the amount of people who had no idea what TPB/torrenting/proxying was before these bans came out and got plastered everywhere and then the amount of people now who got curious and are aware.

    As long as you and another entity are connected to the internet, it's going to be extremely hard to stop all potential levels of access.
    lol, the irony.

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    Re: News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    Interesting to see this evolving - I suspect the jump is likely due to increased publicity (on this and other issues), and as more people are aware of how easy it is to "get free stuff" / "commit a crime and not get caught" the numbers will only increase.

    I am curious what will happen - the old argument of "well if I could buy it legally I would" is slowly eroding away (we've gone from 6month+ waits for content to just a few weeks, or days even) and digital catalogues are just growing and growing..it's never been easier to get your "I want it NOW" fix.

    Personally I don't think it will ever go away and it will only start to decrease when (if!) people gain some morals and realise that the impact of pirating content (stealing in all but a legal sense) is actually huge, and that them downloading that one movie could (And often does) contribute to ruining lives elsewhere in the world.

    Pirating one movie won't change the world. 1 million people pirating that movie will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    I am surprised 91% of people access TPB directly!
    I was thinking that, but maybe the alternate domains are not considered proxys?

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    Re: News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    First off.... downloading or using a torrent is not illegal so my view on sites like PB are that it's no different than a specialised version of google/bing. The amount of people visiting the site doesn't mean the amount of illegal downloads has increased.

    The downloading of certain material is illegal but there's plenty of legal files available via torrent and in some cases downloading a torrent is faster than getting the file directly from the 'company hosting site'. Then there's the new 'bundles' etc on PB and also there's bitorrent sync.

    As to why people still download over streaming legally.... location restrictions still apply (this happens A LOT with anime), exclusive content deals with say Amazon over netflix (pita) and then there's my personal favourite.... crap streaming speeds. I'm in the UK and get a constant 800+ KB/s download, with no restrictions, yet I've struggled to get decent streaming in some cases because the upload to me is useless, there's only so much buffering you can do lol. It's even worse in the US because netflix have had to pay extra to pay for the isp's lack of bandwidth (or more accurately cheap tactics) so they can supply their customers without issue.

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    Re: News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Spud1 View Post
    I am curious what will happen - the old argument of "well if I could buy it legally I would" is slowly eroding away (we've gone from 6month+ waits for content to just a few weeks, or days even) and digital catalogues are just growing and growing..it's never been easier to get your "I want it NOW" fix.

    Personally I don't think it will ever go away and it will only start to decrease when (if!) people gain some morals and realise that the impact of pirating content (stealing in all but a legal sense) is actually huge, and that them downloading that one movie could (And often does) contribute to ruining lives elsewhere in the world.

    Pirating one movie won't change the world. 1 million people pirating that movie will.
    What's you're saying is true if you're only interested in the latest Transformers movie for example. Last time I checked there was a lot of non-movie content on TPB, including some TV series from the sixties and seventies that's either only available partially or not at all. The one I heard someone commenting on most recently was the old Adam West Batman series.

    Then again, I was never 100% convinced by the "if you download then you're a knowing receiver of stolen goods" argument, but I'm no lawyer barackroom or otherwise.

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    Re: News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    The pirate bay forever , i am from the netherlands and i never had a problem accessing TPB even tho they attempted to block TPB.
    I've been visitng them for years and years.

    <Edited by Admin - circumvention methods>

    Oh yeah i can't resist : lol
    Anyhow if i copy your car and use it for myself.
    You wake up next morning , you notice your car is still there , so it's not stealing :-D because then you wouldn't have a car anymore. lolz
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    Re: News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    You car analogy is false. By stealing the intellectual property of the artist and/or song writer, you are depriving them of income.

    But I expect you know all the arguments, but choose to ignore them.

    However, if you again post methods for accessing sites such as TPB, you will be banned. Such discussions are not permitted on HEXUS.
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    Re: News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    First off.... downloading or using a torrent is not illegal so my view on sites like PB are that it's no different than a specialised version of google/bing. The amount of people visiting the site doesn't mean the amount of illegal downloads has increased.
    Downloading/use of copyright material without the copyright owner's permission is not legal. Sites that allow legal downloading will have the copyright owners permission and may receive royalties which recompenses them for their intellectual effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    Downloading/use of copyright material without the copyright owner's permission is not legal. Sites that allow legal downloading will have the copyright owners permission and may receive royalties which recompenses them for their intellectual effort.
    If you'd have read the next part of my post you'd have also read
    The downloading of certain material is illegal but there's plenty of legal files available via torrent and in some cases downloading a torrent is faster than getting the file directly from the 'company hosting site'. Then there's the new 'bundles' etc on PB and also there's bitorrent sync.
    Like I said using a torrent or a search engine is not illegal although you can find illegal content on the search engine... the same as with google, bing etc

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    Re: News - Pirate Bay traffic doubles in face of widespread ISP ban

    I did read the second part of your post, but this thread relates specifically to a site that hosts copyright material without Copyright holders' permission.

    There are many legal sight, Amazon, ITunes and so on, but that is not the issue here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    I did read the second part of your post, but this thread relates specifically to a site that hosts copyright material without Copyright holders' permission.

    There are many legal sight, Amazon, ITunes and so on, but that is not the issue here.
    Much like the automobile analogy was false, so is claiming that TPB actually hosts copyrighted material. Everything hosted on TPB can fit on a CD-R. They host nothing but text/hash files. Now, do they facilitate the access to copyrighted material? That's for the legal system to decide, but as for the actual content? That exists solely on the end-users system. Tech sites should be technically factual...

    Now, as to the topic at hand, as the article seems to indicate, most of the traffic seems to be generated from the USA - and unlike a lot of the Euro-zone, TPB is not censored here. As was pointed out above, the Streisand effect in action. Which means it's legit sites, like, oh, HEXUS.net, that's driving the traffic there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    I did read the second part of your post, but this thread relates specifically to a site that hosts copyright material without Copyright holders' permission.

    There are many legal sight, Amazon, ITunes and so on, but that is not the issue here.
    PB is a search engine with links, the same as google, it doesn't actually host any copyright material, again the same as google.

    It just searches a more specialised format in torrents which have an 'easier' method of finding illegal content than just using google (or usenet)... you can find pretty much everything that is on pb via a google search, actually pb comes up in the search and some of it is even on youtube....

    Tools to find illegal content are not the problem, that's not actually illegal unless it's hosting the file, it's the downloading of illegal content that is illegal (well a civil action case in the UK last time I checked, it might have changed) and no matter what is put in to place something else will pop up as an alternative... just look at how kazaa (yes I'm that old) and the original napster got replaced with megaupload and torrents

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