News - Samsung accuses Nvidia of false advertising

[HEXUS]

And multiple patent infringements for good measure.

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[aidanjt]

Patent wars got out of hand at least 10 years ago.

[stevie lee]

r.e. the false advertising. those Nvidia results do show that the Exynos 5433 is faster in the first 3 tests. so why are Nvidia claiming they're faster, when their own results show they aren't.

in order to claim 'worlds fastest' it has to be in all areas, unless Nvidia are saying those tests don't matter atall, so why have they even run those benchmarks.?

they should change the tagline to:
'worlds fastest mobile processor, except in this test, and that one and that one aswell'

[crossy]

r.e. the false advertising. those Nvidia results do show that the Exynos 5433 is faster in the first 3 tests. so why are Nvidia claiming they're faster, when their own results show they aren't.

in order to claim 'worlds fastest' it has to be in all areas, unless Nvidia are saying those tests don't matter atall, so why have they even run those benchmarks.?

they should change the tagline to:
'worlds fastest mobile processor, except in this test, and that one and that one aswell'

How about "Tegra K1 - amongst the fastest mobile processors in the world"? And is it just me or do NVidia's graphs contain an heck of a lot of graphics benchmarks.

Patent wars these days are (mostly) about getting (unfair) commercial advantage - spoiling the competition - rather than any genuine desire to protect intellectual property.

That said, I'll repeat my earlier comment about the NVidia v's Samsung spat. Did NVidia genuinely offer fair terms for the tech in question (in which case I'm for them) or "doing an Apple" and trying to enforce patents that anyone with common sense would say were bogus.

[OilSheikh]

Nvidia is the new Apple these days?
Are there any Samsung phones that utilize a nvidia chip ?

[GuidoLS]

Coke tastes better than Pepsi... just ask any one of our 20 hand picked testers... Papa Johns - better ingredients, better pizza...

People aren't, in general, that stupid. I hope not, anyway. And comparing the Nexus 4 to the Shield is like comparing a Ferrari to a Ford Pinto... the best you can say is they are both cars, and both have parts with the same names. Too much fanboi already, and this is a new posting.

[c12038]

Benchmarks are useless what matters is how they perform in Mobiles and Tablets you could have the fastest chip in a moderate mobile but still be crap elsewhere like memory and such like...

As for Patents quite sure Intel will jump on the bandwagon somewhere along the line and stick a Infringement notice on both companies for one reason or another over chip technology.....

[tomthum]

Samsung ARE CORRECT THERE PROCESSOR IS FASTER END OF STORY

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Benchmarks are useless what matters is how they perform in Mobiles and Tablets you could have the fastest chip in a moderate mobile but still be crap elsewhere like memory and such like...

It makes me wonder especially for phones,outside of synthetic results,whether most people would actually notice the performance difference between the top few SOCs,for most things in a double blind test.

[DanceswithUnix]

As for Patents quite sure Intel will jump on the bandwagon somewhere along the line and stick a Infringement notice on both companies for one reason or another over chip technology.....

I don't think Intel can go for Nvidia for a few years yet, they had quite the spat a short time ago which ended in cross license agreements and clear guidelines on who could do what.

As for Samsung, well now that would be interesting, but I suspect that would be rather hitting the thermonuclear option and I suspect Intel don't have cause for getting into that sort of a fight.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/...soft-combined/

I suspect the lawyers would win.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I don't think Intel can go for Nvidia for a few years yet, they had quite the spat a short time ago which ended in cross license agreements and clear guidelines on who could do what.

As for Samsung, well now that would be interesting, but I suspect that would be rather hitting the thermonuclear option and I suspect Intel don't have cause for getting into that sort of a fight.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/...soft-combined/

I suspect the lawyers would win.

It also has extensive support from the South Korean government AFAIK too.

[crossy]

It makes me wonder especially for phones,outside of synthetic results,whether most people would actually notice the performance difference between the top few SOCs,for most things in a double blind test.

Probably not overall - although I'm willing to bet that K1 will beat Snapdragon800 (or whatever they're up to these days) for some usage cases, and vice-versa.

And I'm going to also suggest that mobile processors are pretty much interchangable "commodity" parts these days - with only a few extreme fanboys actually bothered over which is in their mobile device. Certainly not the level of passion that - for example - goes around Intel v's AMD desktop cpus, or NVidia v's AMD graphics processors.

[DanceswithUnix]

Probably not overall - although I'm willing to bet that K1 will beat Snapdragon800 (or whatever they're up to these days) for some usage cases, and vice-versa.

And I'm going to also suggest that mobile processors are pretty much interchangable "commodity" parts these days - with only a few extreme fanboys actually bothered over which is in their mobile device. Certainly not the level of passion that - for example - goes around Intel v's AMD desktop cpus, or NVidia v's AMD graphics processors.

My son complained yesterday that his Moto E wasn't really fast enough for some game he was playing. Didn't stop him playing though, so it couldn't have been *that* bad.

TBH I think the speed of flash storage matters more for most usage than the CPU speed.

[johnniedoo]

With respect to the 'fastest' graphics processors and cpus , no one seems to take them more than boasting rights, since , often they only refer to one small market, or large consumer market, no matter.Small print is everywhere and it has become difficult to distinguish from legitimate marketing puffing pieces and white paper statements of fact as one might expect in an investor prospectus. I think courts have made allowances for things designed to promote retail sales somehow. Like, it is ok to lie in one place but can get one 20yrs somewhere else. It seems dangerous these days to form combined technology partnerships; they seem to end up suing each other pretty fast. hard for outsiders to have any handle on who did what to whom, when or why either. fans of one support the brand they have or like more for whatever reason.

[bobhope2005]

I agree Johnniedoo. Who knows what went on.

Often seem to find though with these patent wars that the big names find a way to bribe, pay or bully their way to victory.

A lot of these patent wars are very similar - companies buying time to win market share even if they know they're in the wrong. Its a dirty business and I don't think any of their hands are clean.

I really do wish I'd decided to study law instead of computing though given what some of these lawyers must be earning from these companies.