Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 23

Thread: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

  1. #1
    HEXUS.admin
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    31,709
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    2,073 times in 719 posts

    AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    AMD used Cinebench compute tests to show the uplift in performance.
    Read more.

  2. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Worksop
    Posts
    149
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    15 times in 13 posts
    • KrisWragg's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asrock X370 Taichi
      • CPU:
      • AMD 1700X @ 3.7Ghz
      • Memory:
      • 32GB Corsair Vengeance
      • Storage:
      • 500GB 950 Evo + 500GB 850 Evo
      • Graphics card(s):
      • R9 290 @ 1.1Ghz
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic Platinum 660W
      • Case:
      • Fractal Design Define S
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro 64bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 x Dell U2713HM
      • Internet:
      • Plusnet 78mbit down / 20mbit up

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Planning on building a new system early next year, will be interesting to see whether Zen is any good and I can have an all AMD system, or whether it will end up being Intel + Nvidia/AMD.

    All boils down to best performance for the £££

  3. #3
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    75
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    3 times in 3 posts

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Slide displays 'Orochi' (aka FX 8350)... it's all in the detail, Mark! ;-)

  4. Received thanks from:

    mtyson (26-05-2016)

  5. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,207
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked
    114 times in 102 posts

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Where did the 2x performance come from exactly, that graph could be any scale they like as we've all seen it before where they start at some number other than 0 and have a tiny section blown up to make it look better.

    Don't get me wrong I would love to see AMD put pressure on Intel if for nothing more than reducing prices but I'll be waiting until it's released before getting my hopes up

  6. #5
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    75
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    3 times in 3 posts

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    Where did the 2x performance come from exactly, that graph could be any scale they like as we've all seen it before where they start at some number other than 0 and have a tiny section blown up to make it look better.

    Don't get me wrong I would love to see AMD put pressure on Intel if for nothing more than reducing prices but I'll be waiting until it's released before getting my hopes up
    Have a look on the left axis or better still, perhaps hit the WCCF source link & have a read. Its Cinebench R15 - which observes the 2x perf jump.

    The red capes are coming............

  7. #6
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    12,975
    Thanks
    778
    Thanked
    1,584 times in 1,339 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X470-PRO
      • CPU:
      • 5900X
      • Memory:
      • 32GB 3200MHz ECC
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Linux, 2TB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix RX Vega 56
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 39 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Iiyama 27" 1440p
      • Internet:
      • Zen 900Mb/900Mb (CityFibre FttP)

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    I'm sure there will be carefully chosen benchmarks where Zen can double Fx8350. If each Zen core has the same SSE/AVX throughput as an Fx module, then with 8 cores vs 4 modules that is a potential doubling right there in things like compressing HD video files.

    What people are really going to be interested in though is how it copes with single thread loads like WoW that used to favour Intel. That gives a step change in how the platform feels. Then there are things like database performance where AMD used to get hammered (which is particularly sad when Fx was clearly intended as an integer heavy server part to get thrashed in basic integer compute tasks like that).

  8. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Posts
    3,526
    Thanks
    504
    Thanked
    468 times in 326 posts

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Quote Originally Posted by idris View Post
    Have a look on the left axis or better still, perhaps hit the WCCF source link & have a read. Its Cinebench R15 - which observes the 2x perf jump.
    There isn't a left axis on the second graph, the two graphs are separated by a dotted line and the graph on the right isn't using the same scale as the one on the left, the left has 5 delineation marks and the right has 6.

  9. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Birmingham
    Posts
    273
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    8 times in 8 posts
    • Badbonji's system
      • Motherboard:
      • GIGABYTE G1.Sniper M3
      • CPU:
      • Core i7 3770k 4.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 16GB TeamElite 1600MHz
      • Storage:
      • 256GB M4 SSD + 150GB Raptor
      • Graphics card(s):
      • GTX 980
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX850+ Rev. 2
      • Case:
      • Antec 1200
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 8
      • Monitor(s):
      • Samsung 24" 1920x1200 + LG 32" 1080P TV
      • Internet:
      • BT Infinity 2 76/19Mbps

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Quote Originally Posted by Corky34 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by idris View Post
    Have a look on the left axis or better still, perhaps hit the WCCF source link & have a read. Its Cinebench R15 - which observes the 2x perf jump.
    There isn't a left axis on the second graph, the two graphs are separated by a dotted line and the graph on the right isn't using the same scale as the one on the left, the left has 5 delineation marks and the right has 6.
    And also the left graph is performance/watt as the first point on that slide says, so it could just be referring to efficiency...

  10. #9
    Orbiting The Hand's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Lincoln, UK
    Posts
    1,580
    Thanks
    170
    Thanked
    96 times in 73 posts
    • The Hand's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte AB350 Gaming-3
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 5 2400G
      • Memory:
      • 16GB Patriot Viper DDR4 3200mhz (8GBx2)
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Kingston SSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Geforce RTX 2060 Super 8GB Dual Series
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX 520 Modular
      • Case:
      • Coolermaster Praetorian
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Sony 32 inch HD TV
      • Internet:
      • 20Mbps Fibre

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Quote Originally Posted by KrisWragg View Post
    Planning on building a new system early next year, will be interesting to see whether Zen is any good and I can have an all AMD system, or whether it will end up being Intel + Nvidia/AMD.

    All boils down to best performance for the £££
    Same here, price is King. I'm looking at maybe a Zen + Vega setup.

  11. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    131
    Thanks
    9
    Thanked
    3 times in 3 posts

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    I am also looking forward to assembling a new PC sometime next year, when the dust settles a bit. It will be interesting, whatever happens. I hope the prices of the CPUs will go down a bit so I could afford a really fast CPU, otherwise I don't see the point in upgrading my current PC. I'm talking about the CPUs that cost from around 150-250 quid. A Zen for around 200 quid would be an instant buy in my book, but I highly doubt the price will be that low, unfortunately. Well, we'll see...

  12. #11
    root Member DanceswithUnix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In the middle of a core dump
    Posts
    12,975
    Thanks
    778
    Thanked
    1,584 times in 1,339 posts
    • DanceswithUnix's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus X470-PRO
      • CPU:
      • 5900X
      • Memory:
      • 32GB 3200MHz ECC
      • Storage:
      • 2TB Linux, 2TB Games (Win 10)
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus Strix RX Vega 56
      • PSU:
      • 650W Corsair TX
      • Case:
      • Antec 300
      • Operating System:
      • Fedora 39 + Win 10 Pro 64 (yuk)
      • Monitor(s):
      • Benq XL2730Z 1440p + Iiyama 27" 1440p
      • Internet:
      • Zen 900Mb/900Mb (CityFibre FttP)

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Pricing will be interesting. I presume when AM4 is launched with the Carrizzo based quad cores they will have the usual £50 to £130 price range, so Zen will slot in over the top of that when they come out.

  13. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    2,207
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked
    114 times in 102 posts

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    Quote Originally Posted by idris View Post
    Have a look on the left axis or better still, perhaps hit the WCCF source link & have a read. Its Cinebench R15 - which observes the 2x perf jump.

    The red capes are coming............
    As I said there are no measurements on that graph and I have read wccf and watched their video.

    While we obviously hope for the performance they're suggesting there's nothing to say that's going to be the case based on a slide which has no actual values attached to it. For all we know it could start at 1.6 at the 'zero' line and the actual values on the graph could be 1.8 and 2.0 for example, it wouldn't be the first time we've seen creative marketing..

    Not to mention it says 'expected' performance so again it could be very inaccurate.

  14. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2012
    Posts
    361
    Thanks
    1
    Thanked
    28 times in 22 posts
    • anselhelm's system
      • Motherboard:
      • MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
      • CPU:
      • AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
      • Memory:
      • 2x16GiB Crucial 3600MHz CL16
      • Storage:
      • 1x Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD, 1x WD Gold 10TB HDD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • MSI RTX 2070 Super w/ Morpheus II
      • PSU:
      • Corsair RM750x
      • Case:
      • Corsair Carbide Air 540
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
      • Monitor(s):
      • MSI OPTIX MAG272QR
      • Internet:
      • Zen FTTC

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    #corrections

    "that each Zen module will comprise of" --> "that each Zen module will comprise"

  15. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    772
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    9 times in 9 posts

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    AMD is far from dead not that I am a fanboy or anything but whomever is going to offer the best performance and speed is going to get their components put into my new 3K£ system.

  16. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    2,385
    Thanks
    181
    Thanked
    304 times in 221 posts

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    If this is true, this will be incredible...but it's a case of "if it's true".

    Oooft, i7 5960x performance at AMD prices...need a new pair of underwear

  17. #16
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    850
    Thanks
    15
    Thanked
    34 times in 30 posts
    • flearider's system
      • Motherboard:
      • asrock taichi x370
      • CPU:
      • ryzen 1700@4ghz
      • Memory:
      • 16gb gskill flare cl14 3200
      • Storage:
      • 500mb 850 evo + 1tb hd space
      • Graphics card(s):
      • gigabyte r9 290
      • PSU:
      • evga 850
      • Case:
      • LD PC-V8 ATX/HPTX Red 2xtripple 1xquad rads
      • Operating System:
      • win 7 ulti
      • Monitor(s):
      • toshiba 32"
      • Internet:
      • 65 d/30 up ee

    Re: AMD slide shows Zen CPU offers double FX 8350 performance

    wow and again wow even if it falls just short your still getting a £700+ chip for what £150-200 .. i know which i'd take and if it's unlocked well icing on the cake
    What does it matter now if men believe or no?
    What is to come will come. And soon you too will stand aside,
    To murmur in pity that my words were true
    (Cassandra, in Agamemnon by Aeschylus)

    To see the wizard one must look behind the curtain ....

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •