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    Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    MSI has also been caught out by some review sites.
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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    Has this been done with recent older cards like the 600,700 and 900 range of cards....

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    Quote Originally Posted by c12038 View Post
    Has this been done with recent older cards like the 600,700 and 900 range of cards....
    Yes.

    TechPowerUp have this list of known affected cards:



    'saving reviewers time' is rubbish - reviewers can OC enable an OC mode in seconds if they want - primarily though they are reviewing in order to let the user know what experience they will have with a card, so changing defaults between reviewer and retail copies is reprehensible.

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    FYI,

    The review sample of the MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X was running at the correct speeds.

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    Quote Originally Posted by Tarinder View Post
    FYI,

    The review sample of the MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X was running at the correct speeds.
    Yes I remember you made a note of specifying that both in the review and in this news article (because it was a retail unit, not reviewer provided, you say).

    More evidence that sourcing from retail rather than manufacturer for reviews is the superior option.

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    'saving reviewers time' is rubbish - reviewers can OC enable an OC mode in seconds if they want - primarily though they are reviewing in order to let the user know what experience they will have with a card, so changing defaults between reviewer and retail copies is reprehensible.
    It's nothing to do with saving time - it's that the odd reviewer might forget to engage it before benchmarking (it happens), and suddenly their card looks rubbish compared to the plethora of almost identical cards (which shipped with OC turned on).

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    Quote Originally Posted by goldcd View Post
    It's nothing to do with saving time
    That's their excuse, not mine:
    Quote Originally Posted by Asus
    To save media time and effort


    Quote Originally Posted by goldcd
    - it's that the odd reviewer might forget to engage it before benchmarking (it happens), and suddenly their card looks rubbish compared to the plethora of almost identical cards (which shipped with OC turned on).
    Except retail cards don't have it turned on, and other manufacturers don't either.

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    I think a little more transparancy is needed really, I dont think its a bad thing doing it, if the card can run all day in OC mode then that should be the mode used in the reviews to show the cards peak performance.

    Maybe cards in the future should be benchmarked using both modes? and a little paragraph explaining the benifits of both modes?
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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    First it was VW lying about emissions.... Now its PC Component manufacturers lying about capabilities of their stuff.


    Who'd have thought it possible.....

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    Quote Originally Posted by ChewieJ View Post
    Now its PC Component manufacturers lying about capabilities of their stuff.
    Where are they doing that?

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by c12038 View Post
    Has this been done with recent older cards like the 600,700 and 900 range of cards....
    Yes.

    TechPowerUp have this list of known affected cards:



    'saving reviewers time' is rubbish - reviewers can OC enable an OC mode in seconds if they want - primarily though they are reviewing in order to let the user know what experience they will have with a card, so changing defaults between reviewer and retail copies is reprehensible.

    The MSI R9 280X Gaming figures are not incorrect. The card features 3 modes; quiet, normal and fast. The 1050 setting is simply the faster mode surely?

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    So does every other company, I just prefer that they come clean about it as it is, for an instance it wont stop me from buying Asus products, never had a fault on anything they made or for that sake blowing up in my face unless I did something stupid on my own behalf.

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    Personally I don't see this being a massive issue. It isn't as if the manufacturers are preventing customers from accessing those modes bar the installation of additional software.

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    Quote Originally Posted by xirii View Post
    Personally I don't see this being a massive issue.
    Same here. MSI/Asus should have made it clearer that the review samples are already set to OC mode but, other than that, I think the world will keep on turning despite this news.

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke7 View Post
    The MSI R9 280X Gaming figures are not incorrect. The card features 3 modes; quiet, normal and fast. The 1050 setting is simply the faster mode surely?
    Read the news article

    I agree it's not that big an issue, but the simple matter is that review cards should not be any different from retail cards, even if both could be converted to the other easily.

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    Re: Asus admits its GTX 1000 Series review cards use faster defaults

    They were most likely very cherry picked cards on top of this crap.
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