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    Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    It was the only OS to grow in June, with usage up by 3.4 per cent.
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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    Non-story.
    No-one can buy Windows 7, OSX is a dead duck, and Windows 10 is still forcing itself on the unwilling.

    I would be astonished if the statistics showed anything else.

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    still prefer 7 over 10...

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    I installed Windows 10 from an ISO (not an upgrade) the other week. Every single game I tried resulted in crashes after anything from 30 seconds to 20 minutes, depending on the game.

    After a couple of hours of fiddling I decided it wasn't worth the effort, restored my Windows 8.1 image and went on my merry way.

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    Quote Originally Posted by [DW]Cougho View Post
    I installed Windows 10 from an ISO (not an upgrade) the other week. Every single game I tried resulted in crashes after anything from 30 seconds to 20 minutes, depending on the game. ...
    Then there's something wrong with some aspect of your hardware or driver set up, frankly. Entire family game on Windows 10, and we don't have any issues with any games. Not saying we don't occasionally have issues with Windows 10, mind you But I would suggest your experience is not typical, and your game crashes are not actually due to Windows 10 itself.

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    This might sound very arrogant, but somehow I always thought Steam users were a bit smarter and more foresighted. Apparently, the words "free" and "DirectX12" carry more weight than common sense, though.

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Then there's something wrong with some aspect of your hardware or driver set up, frankly. Entire family game on Windows 10, and we don't have any issues with any games. Not saying we don't occasionally have issues with Windows 10, mind you But I would suggest your experience is not typical, and your game crashes are not actually due to Windows 10 itself.
    All of our machines have occasional crashes in 10, they were all stable in 7. It isn't bad, certainly not bad enough to swap back, still hoping MS will improve things again, but it clearly isn't as stable.

    Wonder if PeterB will need a new sig now that I have installed Win10. I don't like it, but as the free upgrade deadline approached I figured I may as well get it over with.

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    I'm not sure about the results this time around for some of the hardware as I decided to participate in this one put it couldn't get the res of my monitors correct. It reported my 4k monitor as being 1440p and there is no way to correct them!

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Then there's something wrong with some aspect of your hardware or driver set up, frankly. Entire family game on Windows 10, and we don't have any issues with any games. Not saying we don't occasionally have issues with Windows 10, mind you But I would suggest your experience is not typical, and your game crashes are not actually due to Windows 10 itself.
    It's entirely possible, probable even - but the only thing that changed was the OS. I know it was the display (AMD) driver that was having issues - I even removed my overclock, tried without MSI afterburner and tried numerous drivers to no avail. I have no patience for troubleshooting these issues at home, as it's what I do for a job

    It's possibly to do with my aging motherboard, there are no Windows 10 drivers on the ASUS website. But as I have no plans to upgrade until I see a decent performance jump I'll be sticking with Windows 8.1. I have Windows 10 on my laptop and my HTPC without issue but they are not used for gaming or stressed anywhere as much as my main machine.

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    All of our machines have occasional crashes in 10 ...
    The only issue I can think of is one laptop which occasionally powers off as if it's had a thermal shutdown, but hasn't (it's not warm to touch and doesn't have a thermal shutdown event reported). Still haven't tracked that problem down yet, but I think that had issues under 7 as well.There are at least 6 Windows 10 devices in the house that get used regularly, so I have to assume that it's pretty stable for us. Either that or everyone else is having Win 10 nightmares but just can't be bothered to mention it.

    I suspect it's a bit of a lottery and is down to driver and hardware support rather than anything in the core OS. That's certainly been my experience of new Windows versions in the past - I had device issues in both Vista and 7, some of which AFAIK still haven't been sorted (like the exclusive mode issues with the AMD audio driver under Win 7). Problem with driver issues is that they can be very hard to diagnose and remedy.

    Oh, and there's the constant annoyance of weekly insider builds at the minute, which I can only assume is preparation for the release of the anniversary edition in August. When that comes out I'll probably reinstall from ISO on that machine though, since a) it's been through the whole 8 -> 8.1 -> 10 upgrade path and probably needs to be cleaner, and b) it's still overloaded with HP bloatware...

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    I have to echo ScaryJim's account with my experiences. I have 2 laptops, (1 i5 HP 4-5 y/o AMD gfx, and 1 i7 Samsung couple of y/o Nvidia gfx) and I have 2 Desktops, HP i3 3? years old with amd r7 260x, i7 1 y/o with gtx980. So as you can see a mixed bag of spec and age, and all have windows 10 on them, and all behave fine. So far I have only had 1 problem on 1 laptop, resolved with a config change, and 1 on my newer desktop, had to go into 'safe' mode (whatever w10 calls it) and restart to get it out of a reboot loop thing.
    In terms of games I haven't had any of my games crash on me at all, except for BF4 a couple of times (not unheard of... not Win10 fault I would say) and BF1 Alpha once! (again unlikely to be Win10)

    On top of this I have put Win 10 on my parents 2 desktops and 1 laptop, so far only 1 crash on my dads Desktop, similar boot problem to mine.

    My brother has a couple of machines on Win10, again no issues i'm aware of.

    My mate has a Win 10 i3 desktop with AMD gfx, and again no crashes that I am aware off.

    So, games crashing are not necessarily an indication of Windows faults, although they could be. Most likely they are either the game itself (subject to their behaviour on other OS's), or most likely a driver issue, or even that Windows updates are still outstanding.
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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    Wow. A lot of lingering hatred in the comments for Windows 10.

    As a long-time Windows user (3.1, 95, 98 SE, 2000, XP, Vista 64-bit, 7 64-bit and now 10 64-bit), I can honestly say I've had no issues with Windows 10 that I couldn't resolve.

    Don't get me wrong: I've had some hiccups, but I always have those with a newer OS and whenever I upgrade rather than do a clean install. (I wanted to hold off on a new install until my planned AMD Zen upgrade.)

    Even with those issues, the OS generally just works. I've had to hack back in some features, but I had to do that with Windows 7 too and Windows 10 is really nothing like Windows 8, which is horrid.

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    Been running Windows 10 64 bit Pro for almost a year now, yes it was a bit annoying when it was new as some drivers for my current need didn't exist at that point so had to use a clever work around here and there.

    After a couple of months those issues was solved from the various distributors of hardware, have had next to none problems running windows 10 myself and when it crap out on me it is my own fault because I experiment a lot and sooner or later I personally will make it crash... but for games and the likes I get away with playing everything crash free.. brand new games, very old games from before 1990 and more, naturally for the really old DOS based stuff you got to use a work around but it is doable, before that I ran Windows 7 Ultimate edition 64 bit... the difference between Win10 and Win7 is not much of a problem and at least I never ever had to part with any windows 8 crap ick.. that O/S should never had been made.

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

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    Cougho;6011]I installed Windows 10 from an ISO (not an upgrade) the other week. Every single game I tried resulted in crashes after anything from 30 seconds to 20 minutes, depending on the game.

    After a couple of hours of fiddling I decided it wasn't worth the effort, restored my Windows 8.1 image and went on my merry way.
    And you really think that's a Windows 10 issue. Awww.

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    I haven't as yet updated to Win10, as I have a habit of waiting 1 year to install new Win OSe's. As I have found that it pays to wait, as Win OSe's need that time to get sorted out (As sorted as can be expected). I've been doing this since Win95a. Although I avoided Win ME, Vista and 8/8.1. As I beta tested them and really didn't like how the UI was setup, except Win ME, which was a mare and a half. And should never have been released in the first place. And was Win10 really free? Depends on who you ask I suppose.

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    Re: Windows 10 shows strong progress in latest Steam survey

    Quote Originally Posted by [DW
    Cougho;6011]I installed Windows 10 from an ISO (not an upgrade) the other week. Every single game I tried resulted in crashes after anything from 30 seconds to 20 minutes, depending on the game.

    After a couple of hours of fiddling I decided it wasn't worth the effort, restored my Windows 8.1 image and went on my merry way.
    Been running windows 10 since beta every game I play works without issue, you must have some driver issues or hardware issues which windows 10 is trying to use. Just saying.

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