Java

[Jonny M]

Anyone develop in Java? I've heard it can be a bitch to code for, but the cross-platform usefullness of it appeals to me.

I've looked around the Sun website, has anyone got any information on Java, and the coding tools and websites they use for help?

Thanks

[DsW]

Originally posted by Caged
Anyone develop in Java? I've heard it can be a bitch to code for, but the cross-platform usefullness of it appeals to me.

I've looked around the Sun website, has anyone got any information on Java, and the coding tools and websites they use for help?

If you've got a software engineering background then Java is relatively easy when compared to the likes of C or C++.

If you don't have any knowledge of Object Oriented programming or any other basic software engineering concepts then forget it (go and learn those first).

Very useful skill to have on your CV and lots of resources available.

In terms of websites, check out

http://java.sun.com/

http://alphaworks.ibm.com/java

http://www.jguru.com/


If you want to learn it, buy a book. O'Reilly and Wrox are decent but there's a very good free one, "Thinking in Java", here - http://mindview.net/Books

cheers,
dave

[Jonny M]

Thanks for that.

The Sun website's learning resources refer to:

Note: You may want to consider using an IDE to help you write your programs. Java 2 SDK, Standard Edition v. 1.4, is available bundled with an IDE, the Sun™ ONE Studio 4, Community Edition (formerly known as the ForteTM for JavaTM, Community Edition). You can download this Sun ONE Studio bundle from the 1.4 download page.

But I'm having no luck finding this. I can find the Enterprise Editions of the ONE Studio, but not the Community Edition.

Anyone got a link to it?

Thanks

[unrealrocks]

I use the Java 2 SDK and NetBeans which is avalible from the Sun site ... a good system IMO!

Once you've got the basics it isn't too much of a bitch!

[DsW]

Originally posted by Caged
But I'm having no luck finding this. I can find the Enterprise Editions of the ONE Studio, but not the Community Edition.

Anyone got a link to it?

It doesn't look like the Sun One Studio 4 Community Edition is available anymore (its successor, Java Studio Standard 5, is a commercial product). Sun are recommending you use the free NetBeans IDE instead (http://www.netbeans.org/). Its an opensource project, initiated by Sun.

I personally use Eclipse, which is also a free opensource project, but initiated by IBM (http://www.eclipse.org/).

cheers,
dave

[Jonny M]

Cheers guys

[DaBeeeenster]

Aye I write Java pretty much every day. Have written (and still in active development) the Content Management System that the company flogs, as well as an email marketing app (<plug>that david uses for the Hexus press releases<plug>) as well as some other stuff.

It IS a steep learning curve but once you are proficient the amount of work you can get done in a day is pretty amazing really.

I good IDE is essential. I swear by (as do a lot of java developers I know) Intellij Idea, but it aint free. Eclipse is free, but quite complex. However once you get your head around it, they both do real time syntax checking and code completion, which can speed up development time by something like 5 times (seriously).

Eclipse is here:

http://www.eclipse.org/

Good java tutorials here:

http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html

Have you ever written any OO languages before mate, cos if not that will be the biggest head twister...

[duongnt]

same here, stick with java for 3 years now. I think it is a great language, easy secure and lots of library. I am using JBuilder as the IDE atm.

[TuShan]

im doing a module in java at uni right now. i use a very simple ide but i like it. www.blacksilicon.co.uk/javaide.zip