Everton 1 - Arsenal 4: Wake Up Moyes!!!!

[Blitzen]

Did anyone here see the match? It was an absolute belter??

If you did or didnt, go and see the post-match interview David Moyes gave on the BBC Sport website...its HILARIOUS!

I have the utmost respect for this man, or did have until i saw his total lack of respect for any of the Arsenal players or the referee. Basically its everyones fault they got 'felt up' but nothing to do with the schoolboy defending that Everton showed today and the mickey-mouse finishing that the 'God Yakubu' demonstrated.
The silly man even accused Cesc Fabregas of feigning injury after Arteta elbowed him in the face, which clearly to anyone, even someone without eyes, was exactly what happened.

The classiest comment sulky Moyes made though was ' Everton were clearly the best team'!
If they were clearly that good and lost 4-1 i would love to see how much they lose by when being outplayed.

Wenger is no better on some of these occassions but lately he has been showing a little more grace especially against Middlesbrough when we were totally outplayed for 90 minutes and Wenger congratulated the whole team and manager.

I think Moyes needs to learn how to lose thoughas well as win because although they have improved drastically, they are still a 'middle the road' team.
It seems the dizzy heights of 5/6 place has gone to his head.

[Stewart]

We're 6th, still in the domestic cups, went through in europe top of our group, and in the last 14 games have only lost to Man U (penalty with 2 minutes to go), Liverpool (Clattenberg plays for the Reds) and Arsenal today.

So you know nothing. Be quiet.

I'd worry a bit more about Kaka and friends giving you a good hiding when you play Milan in the CL to be honest.

[Blitzen]

We're 6th - Like i said
still in the domestic cups - Along with others
went through in europe top of our group - Yep. But UEFA Cup with unheard of teams. To be fair though, you can only beat whats put in front of you and you have been doing that
and in the last 14 games have only lost to Man U (penalty with 2 minutes to go), Liverpool (Clattenberg plays for the Reds) and Arsenal today. - Like i said....i admire Moyes for that.
So you know nothing. Be quiet. - No - I know that the 'Best Team Lost' I still cant understand that statement and even an Everton fan must cringe when the man at the top makes a statement so unfathomable. If it was 1-0 then there maybe a case for it...but 4-1....nah
I'd worry a bit more about Kaka and friends givig you a good hiding when you play Milan in the CL to be honest. - Maybe....but you have to be in it to win it and we went on the same merry go round of 'Arsenal bashing' a couple of seasons ago when Juventus and Real Madrid were going to thrash us and ended up being 10 minutes from winning the competition

To be fair though, after what happened to Phil O'Donnell of Motherwell today, its pretty insignificant who wins or loses a football match.

[Stewart]

Wenger - 'I never seen it'

[Blitzen]

Originally Posted by Stewart

Wenger - 'I never seen it'

He has a medical condition called 'managers blink'.
He caught it off Ferguson a few years back

[Raz316]

Arsenal were, well.... rubbish I thought on the most part. The passing was all over the place. We only really started playing during the last 20 minutes and 1-4 isn't a "fair" representation of the match.

Im not at all worried about AC Milan though, I think we'll be more than fine against them.

[midzt]

Sorry, but Fabregas stayed down for a good few minutes when he basically got slightly hit on the chin. Again, an Arsenal player goes down like he's been shot! It was a borderline red card with no intention, his arm was high, fair enough. What Bendtner did was far worse and he only got a yellow!
Bar the shocking mistake and defending by Everton, they should've have easily contained you, when Arsenal start playing route one football you know you are struggling and are not neccessarily the better team. 4-1 was a very flattering scoreline, and although football is about results, the result does not necessarily reflect how the teams played, as you suggesting it obviously does.

Also, RIP Phil O'Donnell.

[Stewart]

Clear handball as well. Although Wenger probably never seen it.

'Also, RIP Phil O'Donnell.'

Aye. RIP.

[Blitzen]

Sorry, but Fabregas stayed down for a good few minutes when he basically got slightly hit on the chin. Again, an Arsenal player goes down like he's been shot!

Did you see the game? or more to the point Yakubu?

The bloke spent most of the game rolling around on the floor even though no-one went near him. The guy continually dived trying to con the ref!

And if you dont think Arteta deserved what he got the you need to look at a re-run. He even looked before he did it. At least went Bendtner got his marching orders he was actually going for the ball. Granted he missed it by a country mile but it wasnt malicious.......Arteta was.

ANY footballer wouldve stayed down after that. Not because it was that bad......but because the the offender always needs to be shown a red.

BTW....... Liverpool tonight

[j.o.s.h.1408]

haha remember early in the summer some of you was writing arsenal off in that henry lost the plot thread? hehe look where arsenal are now boys. top of the league yet again

i thought arsenal was gunna fight for 4th place? ha and where is spurs by the way? thought they was gunna do better then us? lol that thread was hilarous.

[Blitzen]

Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408

haha remember early in the summer some of you was writing arsenal off in that henry lost the plot thread? hehe look where arsenal are now boys. top of the league yet again

i thought arsenal was gunna fight for 4th place? ha and where is spurs by the way? thought they was gunna do better then us? lol that thread was hilarous.

I remember that as well

Where are the spuds now

[Splash]

Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408

haha remember early in the summer some of you was writing arsenal off in that henry lost the plot thread? hehe look where arsenal are now boys. top of the league yet again

Actually most of us were more amused at your theories about the fact that he'd clearly stabbed Arsenal in the back and that his career was going down the swanny. Still waiting to see your FA qualification btw.


For the record - I'm not a follower of any particular English club.

[midzt]

Originally Posted by Blitzen

Did you see the game? or more to the point Yakubu?

The bloke spent most of the game rolling around on the floor even though no-one went near him. The guy continually dived trying to con the ref!

Wasn't saying no one dives/tries to con the ref etc, just cos other ppl do it doesnt make it right. Which you are basically suggesting. Why do Arsenal fans always think that cheating is rightfully part of the game, and as long as you don't get caught doing it its fine?

Originally Posted by Blitzen

And if you dont think Arteta deserved what he got the you need to look at a re-run. He even looked before he did it. At least went Bendtner got his marching orders he was actually going for the ball. Granted he missed it by a country mile but it wasnt malicious.......Arteta was.

One word: Eboue

Originally Posted by Blitzen

ANY footballer wouldve stayed down after that. Not because it was that bad......but because the the offender always needs to be shown a red.

So....he was feigning injury to get a player sent off.....

[j.o.s.h.1408]

Originally Posted by Splash

Actually most of us were more amused at your theories about the fact that he'd clearly stabbed Arsenal in the back and that his career was going down the swanny. Still waiting to see your FA qualification btw.


For the record - I'm not a follower of any particular English club.

maybe he diddnt stab arsenal in the back BUT his career is going downhill from the sounds of it

[Blitzen]

Originally Posted by midzt

Wasn't saying no one dives/tries to con the ref etc, just cos other ppl do it doesnt make it right. Which you are basically suggesting. Why do Arsenal fans always think that cheating is rightfully part of the game, and as long as you don't get caught doing it its fine?


One word: Eboue


So....he was feigning injury to get a player sent off.....

Do i detect a Spud in our midst?

Lets be honest..................you are singling out ONE Arsenal player when there a a couple of hundred in the Premier League that do the same week in....week out. Thats not good for your argument is it?
I already said, most Arsenal fans dont think much of Eboue's antics anyway. If you watch football you would see that he never gets the decisions anyway as the refs know what he's up to.
Does this make him worse than:
Savage -Arsenal vs Blackburn the other week he was a complete disgrace for diving
Van Nistelrooy - Nuf said
Ronaldo - Worst diver in the Premier League over the last 5 years by a LONG WAY!
Diouf- At it all the time
Torres - He's not even good at play acting but tries at least 5 a game.

Thats just 5 off the top of my head....there are sooo many more.


If you think that Arsenal are the main culprits then you are deluding yourself. (or just a bit miffed that Arseanl are at the top for now which is what i suspect)

[midzt]

I would rate Drogba and most of the Chelsea team with that over that tbh, I don't think Arsenal are the main culprits at all.
But you're first point of argument in your opening was laughing at Moyes and how he suggested Fabregas was feigning injury, when now you have admitted that he has.....

Yeah, I do support Spurs, but tbh, you being top atm doesn't really bother me too much. I'm a fan of football first, and you play good football, no one denies it. What does annoy me is how Arsenal fans don't care about the cheating that goes on at your club, not so much this year, but in past years. You joke about how Wenger never sees anything...when Zokora dived that one time, I was acutally ashamed that he was a Spurs player.

EDIT: We had a shocker of a season until a few weeks ago. We've under performed majorly, but even the most die hard Arsenal fan can't not admit that you were lucky to get all three points the other day.