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    Re: Back pain

    My GF has a family history of back pain, several of her family needing surgery. She's managed to control it with regular pilates and sports physio.
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    Re: Back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Good luck getting on a waiting list, let alone getting an appointment, in many areas of the country.
    Yes, I'm lucky that despite living in a town that's the furthest in the country from any acute hospital, its got very, very good local primary medicine.

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    Re: Back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by adidan View Post
    ... She's managed to control it with regular pilates ....
    One of my most mobile and least painful periods of time was actually when I was taking a stage combat course!

    I think the key is probably doing proper warm ups, stretches, and cool-downs. They're the thing I tend to skip when I'm exercising (usual biking or climbing for me, and I just throw myself into it!). There's probably a lesson in there somewhere.....

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    Re: Back pain

    Not to derail the thread but ask my Orthopedic surgeon for his opinion on Chiropractors and after about at 30 minute rant he may calm down. Nuff said...


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    Re: Back pain

    Sports physio is good for maintenance/relief.
    A chiropractor massage is also good - chiropractor realigning pelvis is never going to happen with me - has triggered my suspicion spidey sense on more than one occasion (though never again will I visit a chiropractor) - measured up for multi hundred pound insoles at the bike show last year and apparently legs are different lengths, so pelvic alignment is impossible - didn't buy the insoles either.
    I bought a freeze gel with MSM and it is pretty miraculous pain relief wise - though takes a long 30 minutes to start working.
    Core stength training for me = back going ping, but in theory is best prevention.
    Walking apparently engages 60% of the ab muscles, so that is low level core strength training for people who can't run/do sit ups/pilates/yoga.
    Saw physio a few months ago and she explained how important the ham muscles were in supporting the back, so have started ham strength training with drops sets - trouble is stretching before/after more important than ever and neglected hams hurt a lot during stretching. She is the only person out of all the experts I've seen that's explained the mechanics and importance of the hams - no idea why doctors and consultant neglect that advice.
    Take pain relief drugs before pain hits - e.g. timed release ibuprofen before bed time makes it easier to get up in the morning.
    Use a TENS machine if pain is chronic and prolonged.
    Feldenkrais - I would have called quackery if a respected colleague hadn't been the one to recommend - but is good for all, even people without any body problems.
    Be patient and try to remain positive until you find what works for you.
    Last edited by snedger; 19-09-2014 at 07:52 AM.

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    Re: Back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    G'day

    Anyone have experience in successfully treating back pain ?
    Last winter, I somehow got frozen shoulder. Upon further self-investigation by poking myself, I have found that the affected area is actually both sides of my upper spinal cord.

    Regular hot water bag applications and usage of every Deep heat cream in the market hasn't helped.

    I went to my GP twice so far and they just hand me a sheet with exercises to do every time! ( Bloody useless ! )

    I found sleeping on a flat surface such as the floor to be a good solution

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    Re: Back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by MaddAussie View Post
    Not to derail the thread but ask my Orthopedic surgeon for his opinion on Chiropractors and after about at 30 minute rant he may calm down. Nuff said...
    and take me to my osteopath and in half an hour I can walk again and turn my head round like an owl....

    without my osteopath, my life would be hellish. OK.. its only once every few years now.. but when I was working in a different job years ago, getting in and out of 100 cars per day, fast.. sometimes 1000 per week, my pelvis and hip joints caused me grief.

    Osteo... one hour... sorted.

    Same with not being able to look over my right shoulder... 45 minutes with my osteo.. sorted.

    then the osteo shows me which stretches to do.,. and what not to do for a while.. and I pay and off I go.

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    Re: Back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by Slimigo View Post
    I found sleeping on a flat surface such as the floor to be a good solution
    and that cripples me

    the floor is too hard for me and my hips and back hurt quickly.

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    Re: Back pain

    I will suggest some things that are free, risk free and no one will get in trouble for suggesting or trying.

    A) Drink more water, lots more. Pee clear for two whole days. Stop the tea and coffee and drop the alcohol.. just two days.
    And when I say pee clear..I mean water clear.....

    B) During the 2 days water drinkin, excercies the shoulders all day long... roll them up and down, round and round. Whn you drive, do it.. when you watch tv.. do it, when you walk.. do it.

    C) Also in the same two day window occassionally put one arm across you chest, arm straight and use the other arm to pull it gently into your chest.


    Do both sides 2 or 3 times.. then carry on with life

    D)And also regularly, all day long, massage your own shoulders with the hand from the opposite arm.

    Grip firmly and gently ease the muscle of your shoulder away from the bone with a grip


    Try all of that for 2 days.. and DONT GO RUNNING OR CYCLING... dont jar your back in any way... let it rest, move it gentle and see if yuo can free of those shoulders..


    What do I expect to come of this? Well... million to one chance.. you'll fall asleep... you'll roll over in the night and there will be a clonk and a vertebrae in your mid to upper back will click and move and you'll wake up smiling like a lottery winner.

    Has it happend to me?

    yup.. twice in my life

    Too much time dehaydrated and too much caffeine, too much strenuous short term excercise with no planning (box moving, play fighting my my boy, log lifting, rolling dead cars to be bump started) and too many "oouch that bloody hurts" moments

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    Re: Back pain

    As an aside I'd suggest that removing caffeinated drinks and alcohol altogether would fix more than just a buggered back!

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    Re: Back pain

    The frozen shoulder bit piqued my interest. I had it a few years ago and literally so bad they had to do keyhole surgery. Sometimes you need more than just a physio - luckily my physio told me as much on first trip rather than wasting my time and money. The NHS don't want to know unless a physio gets adamant.

    Quick test: Can you ouch your own shoulder blade on the opposite side reaching round your back?

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    Re: Back pain

    I actually met a Chiropractor today. It was a little amusing when he told me that medications can't fix physical ailments. The words 'Unscientific Cult' may have passed my lips, but they belong to the American Medical Association..

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    Re: Back pain

    A few positive things have happened backwise for me since August.
    I relocated in August, left my super duper £1000 bed at my partners house. I bought the bed in 2000 and thought it was the best bed ever - probably early-plasma-TV syndrome - I go back to visit every few weeks and I noticed that my back would flare up after. Took me a while to question whether it was the bed in Sussex. Then I realised that my bad back got really bad in 2000 - just after I bought the bed - maybe a coincidence, but my new memory foam bed feels better to me.
    Have joined a gym and asked for ham strengthening exercises.
    Lovely instructors at the gym, but using a barbell is a recipe for a backcident.
    Am doing drop sets on ham/quad leg curl machines - 3 sets, no rest, dropping the weight by one mark each time. I think that a proper drop set is doing a set until you physically drop, for back safety, I'm just interpreting "drop" as dropping the weight And in the last few weeks I've been doing an hour on a bike - playing Clash of Clans, Boom Beach, backgammon and web surfing on a tablet - otherwise I get too bored after about 10 minutes - there are lots of bikes at my gym and I would not stay on for an hour if all bikes were being used - an unexpected side effect of sitting upright and still on the bike in order to use the tablet is that I've noticed that my abs are sore the next day, so I've been core strengthening by luck.

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