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Ah the classic, "but I / my mates have no issues" defenceOriginally Posted by mikeo
The problem is that a *lot* of us have / are having issues still. None of us would wish faulty hardware on anyone, but the issues are still very real for us.
So are most of the people on HEXUS. We just have very negative experiences of the drives.
As above, many of us on here warn people of the Sandforce issues because we've had to RMA multiple drives, have lost data, and spent hours in wasted time. This isn't anything to do with people thinking they are an expert, the firmware updates with change logs are enough to see that there is a problem. Some of the most respected sites in the hardware sector, like AnAnd still show there are issues. Some of the guys on here are still having issues with the Intel drives and have sent them back for a refund (under the AES problem for speed though).
Why are these mutually exclusive? HalloweenJack is correct, the firmware was rewritten in section sections by Intel to be more reliable. He never said that Sandforce didn't produce the original.
Indeed, but HalloweenJack didn't claim that Intel produced it themselves, but rather that it was rewritten. This is what Intel has done; in conjunction with Sandforce? Probably, but this doesn't make the rewrite for Cherryville any less real (it's actually exclusive to CV for the moment)
Indeed, but there is normally a critical mass where enough people have an issue and it takes off. This is one such example. I agree with you that you're going to get people jump on the bandwagon, but don't underestimate how many of us have / had issues and are *very* peeved about it.
A huge number of the Crucial issues are down the mobo / SATA implementation though, not a drive issue as you said. The other thing to keep in mind that Crucial, to this day, have not had a bug in their firmware which caused dataloss like Sandforce did. Even the 5k powered on issue was a reflash with no data loss.
My "knowledge" comes from replacing over 40 of the things, but you'd know this if you'd searchedI can perform an Internet search as well as anyone thanks. There are always problems with any PC component, whether it be SSD, motherboard are whatever. At least I have some personal experience of using a Sandforce based drive, do you? or does all your "knowledge" come from an Internet search?
See I can be as cheeky as you
It wasn't a dig at you mikeo but we go through this every few weeks with new members / people who are buying their first SSD. I'm not going to repeat what many of our long term have said in many other threads, but there is enough respected members on here who certainly wouldn't jump on the bandwagon for the sake of it who have had bad experiences.
The replies from these new members / SSD newcomers are generally:
- "But mine / my mates works fine"
- All hardware has issues
- Issues have been improved by firmware updates
I / we don't really have issues with these points as such, but they are repeated over and over without acknowledging that many of us still have issues. Issues which quite simply are solved by swapping a Crucal or a Samsung in.
If you put the reliability to one side, they still have issues with compressible data, 'headline' read and write speeds which are great for benchmarks, but less use in the real world and situations where you can fill the drive with the "wrong" data which means they need a reformat / secure erase to properly sort (TRIM doesn't sort it).
You need a dam good reason to go with one IMO with all that in mind.
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